Vehicles don’t get rated based on how the top players do using them.
Vehicles get rated based on GLOBAL statistics.
Win rate: 46.7
Kills per spawn: 0.74
Kills per death: 0.84
Nothing about those stats screams OP and that it needs to be moved up.
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They should get rated based on the top players.
Otherwise you get seal club machines for average players and easy win buttons for top players.
Do that, and regular players get seal-clubbed because they are fighting “above their weight”.
The stats will get even worse, and only “top” players will want to play the vehicles.
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Technically it can if you bring it with your 5.7 lineup snd get uptiered.
I still take and often use the M36 in my 5.7 US lineup at least, much prefer the base M36s mobility over the B2’s heat-fs.
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I was spading the Japanese B2 one. Sorry should’ve clarified.
But I agree, m82 is just so good.
But that was my 118th nuke. Got 1 in a lot of vehicles
The most nukes I’ve gotten in any particular vehicle is probably the T29
M36 could go up to 5.7 with the recent reload buff, though I’d limit it to the non-supercharged (2670 ft/s mv) variants of M82, with 140 g and 200 g filler (Bug Report). Also remove M304 APCR, though no one was using that anyways.
Since the M36B2 has a late-war/immediate post-war configuration with the M3 gun instead of the M3A1 gun, it should lose the 50’s HEAT-FS and should stay at 5.7 as an M36 sidegrade with worse mobility, but but slightly better ammunition. It should also get the unadded large filler M82 round, which can overpressure.
M36B2 would be a straight downgrade without that HEAT-FS lmao. The 2 already are pretty much sidegrades currently.
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Been playing a lot of the crusader 3 recently as part of my 3.7 lineup and honestly, if you couldn’t your turret 50 cal’d, I’d also say it’s better than the t-34-76. Mobility on par or slightly better than the t-34, everything great about 6 pounder equipped british tanks (except the valentine IX, but I also love you too), scouting. Survivability is worse but the t-34 is not going to survive a lot when it gets penned so that’s a moot point.
Only the Italian and Japanese ones are a direct upgrade.
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Which let certain nation players keep turm 3 8.3 for pretty long and even get tiger 2 p back to 6.3 despite sweden players clearly showing it performs well at 6.7.
Number of battles is what is important here, one is tech tree the other is event tank.
10k games vs 284k games
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Just as much as being a german tank hurts the Tiger 2’s performance in global stats, so does the Swedish tiger II get boosted by being an exclusive event vehicle for a minor nation. The truth in their performance lies somewhere in the middle
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Its battlepass tiger which was available for everyone for 2000 ge. No iq tests, no skill checks, just pay some money.
At the moment it is not.
The number of games played shows that it is 28 less times played
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At a specific time which has passed tending to make the vehicle played more by experienced players, not to mention being a part of a minor nation
I mean. They are even losing to another major nation while having stronger tank. Better twr and 6s reload vs 7.5s.
@ULQ_LOVER @Normandy_Corsair
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yes nobody said otherwise, unless you’re adding to what I said
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Just added another example with major nation and vehicle available to anyone
No, it had it’s own turret made entirely for it.
I do agree witb reload buff however.
(Gaijin could add first proto of T-34-100 which had original T-34-85 (1944) turret with the reload T-34-100 currently has at 6.0. Would be in line with things like M4/ with M26 turret.
Numbers are not that different, and KPz has double the number of games played.
As for your first example - the premiums come spaded. That affects the stats - as in the Nr.1-50 case you have up to 284,000 players starting with stock.
Not sure why they dropped the Nr.1-50 down to 6.3 - it’s stats are not exactly terrible.
But the overall point is…
Rating a vehicle based on what the minority of players can do with it screws over the majority of the player base. Makes no sense.