Not sure what you mean by this.
Are you suggesting that -3 isn’t a huge drawback on hilly terrain?
Because people don’t understand how to play a lot of vehicles and just hit W.
I can’t tell you why the waffentrager is bad.
It’s terrible apart from its gun.
Opposite.
I’m suggesting RUS would benefit from choosing maps to the same extent as snipers.
I wouldn’t say so since most maps are flat and are CQC, or maps that are hilly usually have an option for flat CQC (like Maginot Line).
If they can try to say 8 games is enough to say how a vehicle performs, then I’m free to use 140 games across two identical T-34s and one similar T-34 to say how they perform.
In a full down tier the VK is effectively a heavy tank, and is hard to kill. Yes that is true, but so is Maus or MBT-70 and many more. In a down tier especially at lower brs like 2.7-8.0 every good medium in a full down tier effectively becomes a heavy with good mobility. For example I had a game pre 3.7 to 4.0 Panzer 4 H change in the Panzer 4 H (full down tier) and effectively nothing could pen me as most things could only pen a small area of my turret. Was my Panzer 4 H seal clubbing the enemy team yes it was! Was 3.7 Panzer 4 H over powered no it wasn’t.
Good speed and good cannon is a pretty ridiculous strength for a tank to have. Simple having those two traits can make up for some MASSIVE downsides.
The event Breda 90/53 has no gun depression, no armor, bad turret rotation, can’t fire forward, no machine gun, and a large silhouette.
Despite ALL the above, it is still a solid tank just because it has a good cannon and is decently mobile.
Th Vk 3002 has great mobility, arguably the best cannon of any 5.0 tank, and on top of all that it has good armor. There is really no reason it can’t be raised to 5.7.
I also support this but I also fully recognize that it’s a skill issue. I just hate hetzer players. It doesn’t actually deserve 5.3
It would benefit me as well, as a person. No more getting sniped in my spawn on spaceport or not being able to see a goddamn thing on bad weather low cloud cover white rock
If the VK stays at 5.0 then the Comet needs to come down. They’re very similar machines.
Pz.4 H has not even close to the same mobility as the Vk30
You can get sniped out of pretty much every spawn.
Fundamentally gaijin needs to fix spawncamping.
Either:
Severely reduce the rewards from spawn kills
Or
Add unkillable AI to start engaging if the enemy is close to the spawn bubble.
Which is why it’s at 5.0 and not 3.3 (like where the Wolverines / Achilles are).
And yet the Breda 90/53 is mediocre at best at its own BR, and that is why it sits at 4.0 rather than at any higher BR.
There are better tanks at 5.0, 5.3, and 5.7 than the VK 3002.
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The only thing the Vk 3002 has in common with the M10s is a slow turret rotation. It is 100% deserving of 5.7.
Yes, even having every single detriment known to tank kind, it still performs well just off of speed and firepower alone.
There might be tanks which can get more kills if tryharded in (e.g T-34-85 and 76 Shermans) however they’re overall weaker in a 1v1 engagement, and can be reasonably countered by lower tier vehicle of comparable skill.
It’s an Achilles with better acceleration, better post-pen damage, higher top speed, access to smoke grenades, is not open-top, has ~140mm UFP armour and ~100mm of turret armour.
It loses the 6.7s reload speed, 50.cal, and -10 degrees of gun depression.
A whole 1.7 BR difference for that makes sense. ~2.4 BR difference is unreasonable.
At the end of the day, anything >5.0 eats it alive, and its firepower becomes meaningless when you realise that most maps are CQC, where gun handling is extremely important (especially if you don’t have any armour).
The M36 GMC is a much better vehicle than the VK 3002. So unless you are planning on moving up the M36s too, it does not make any sense to move up the VK 3002 to 5.3, let alone 5.7.
I wouldn’t say well. The only reason why its stats are anywhere near good is because only competent players have it and use it. That, and people don’t know what HE is for some reason.
That’s completely wrong.
VK 3002 is a horrible 1v1 tank unless you are talking about long-range engagements.
The 76 Shermans / T-34-85s are some of the best when it comes to 1v1ing.
Not really? Name one.
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Inb4 he is going to say you just lack knowledge before your posts mysteriously get removed due to flags.
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M36 is roughly equal being slower, and being susceptible to strafing, HE, and auto cannons, in exchange for better turret rotation.
Most players use AP as their main shell because HE can only kill a small number of targets.
The 76 Shermans and T-34-85s are good for aggressive CQC pushes. The Vk 3002 can fulfill the role of either a light tank or a heavy tank when it needs to be.
An M24 has far better chances against an M4A1 (76) than against a Vk 3002.
Tons of maps that have lumpy terrain and hills.
For every city map like (cargo port, advance to the Rhine, Poland, Abandoned factory ) you have lumpy maps like (Berlin, Stalingrad, Vietnam, Jungle, Finland, Frozen Pass, Mozdok, Ash River)
This is a VK30 in a CQC map played on Alaska.
I brawled the whole time.
I’ve almost doubled my KDr with it.
Started today with a 1.3. Now I’m at a 2.02… while brawling the entire time and with most matches being 5.7
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I think the issue is most people are just uncreative. They think “brawling” means treating the Vk 3002 like a T-34-85, and don’t (or can’t) change their approach to brawling to properly suit the Vk. Something similar happens with Fw 190s. Most people think they’re bad at dogfighting because their idea of a dogfight is holding [S] in a Yak-3.