No it’s not
Uh?
Armor? One can take autocannon fire while other can’t
Years ago, armor was also modeled differently as well.
Speaking as a person who exclusively plays the nation with guns that can front pen T2’s turret faces, the Tiger 2 P is just straight up better in the context of war thunder.
50/50, the ‘porsche’ turret is bouncy because of its shape, not its thickness. I personally don’t think the Tiger 2 P should go down in br, but that’s opinion speaking.
I am simply stating part of its dominance way back when was how the game handled armor. Another reason was the much lower numbers of vehicles in the trees.
What are those shots? It seems you don’t know how to shoot at all.
The way you took your shots. Game didn’t nothing wrong nor Kv-1 outperformed
The way I would took my shots
Lmao you didn’t even try to aim for his turret which would’ve been an EASY kill.
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Oooh i suppose u talking about the leopard, wait wait wait, how u manage to die against autocannon tanks?? U use the leopard to rush!!! My boy, the leopard 1a5 is the holy best sniper,ta long distance your armour is good, but the m60 is not that good as sniper because of the mobility and because of the really high profile,also lets not talk about its ammo. So yeh, leopard 1a5 is probably the best 9.3 just with t72 and the copy paste leopard 1’s in other nations like OF40 or amx’s that have the same play style and they are almost the same tank but somehow they will still be at 9.3, almost everyone in the community know that leopards are going down because of how much german mains complained about the armour when it in fact never had armour because is made to shoot and hide.
Armour of the Tiger II P right now is better than it was 4 years ago. Hey, im.talking because i know what i say,atleast i have the Tiger II so will enjoy bullying the poor 5.3’s in downtiers again. U will see how the stats of the Tiger II P skyrocket to the sky with the br change
Yeh, sometimes with the firefoy u can even shoot trought the track, KV-1 is just like butter the moment u know his weakspots
To be fair, the OF-40 MTCA at 9.3 is significantly better than the Leopard 1a5 or amx. It has a double the turret speed, both horizontally and vertically, an 1000hp engine and better armor (with only missing thermal). The amx has no excuse to not go down with the leopard
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Tbh, they all should stay where they are, because they dont struggle at all
Which is why I’m in agreement that it doesn’t need to go down.
My old account had every tiger 2 variant that existed at the time (Tiger 2 105, diesel tiger 2, Tiger 2 P and H)
The Leopard is nothing special at 9.3, let alone the best 9.3 lmao.
Double lmao
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Yep, tiger II P is fine at 6.7
Tell me,are m60 tts and leopard 1a5 at the same level? I doubt it
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Leopard 1A5 is better than the TTS, but not to the extend that you make it out to be.
The Leopard 1A5 was never the best 9.3 because it doesn’t do anything exceptional. The CM11, Gal Batesh, Olifant Mk.2 etc are all much better snipers while the AMX-30 Super, OF-40 MTCA, XM-1s and MBT/Kpz-70 were all much better flankers. It was always just decent at everything, a solid all rounder.
Should it move down? probably not, but I doubt it will cause massive issues.
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That’s more so because T-62 is overtiered, same with Object 435. T-62 should be 8.3 as at best it’s a sidegrade to T-55A (I see it as a slower downgrade to T-55A with lacking HMG, all this being only Gaijin’s fault).
Object 435 is like second worst 9.0 T serie in game (only finnish T-55M is worse), basically any other 9.0 soviet like tank outperforms it. (best 9.0 soviet like tank is ZTZ’s 88’s)
T95E1 was rather enjoyable back when I played it since it’s basically an american made T serie and lack of stabiliser didnt hurt it that much at the time. But now with so many undertiered T58/XM1’s I bet it’s pretty awful to play rn.
Fair enough.
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