Cromwell V is smaller and faster which makes up for the 50 cal imo, and most SPAAs are open topped so you can still coax them. Though in general SPAAs feeling safe enough to push tanks is inherently indicative of a balancing problem but that’s not the discussion we’re having
All I have to say is that you are very wrong about Japan. Japan is already over-tiered, and these proposed changes exacerbate Japan’s issues rather than balance its tech tree.
The Type 61 and ST-A3 both have weak armor and low survivability compared to the tanks they face, and the HEATFS they get is inconsistent and generally has poor post-pen damage, it is not OP, especially considering how squishy these tanks are.
You argument against the Type 60 SPRG makes no sense; you need to compare it against the M50, not the M56. The M50, meanwhile, is both smaller and has more armor, both in therms of thickness and not being open-top, which the Type 60 is, and the M50 can fire three times as many rounds before reloading, all at the same BR.
Type 99 is already a higher BR than the 2S19M1 with extremely similar HE performance, same reload, and similar protection, but the Type 99 has fewer available rounds but you don’t mention upping the 2S19M1’s BR. I don’t see any reason to increase the Type 99 either.
Ho-Ri prototype, on the one hand, maybe, it is pretty strong. But on the other hand, so is the Tiger II at the same BR and that gets both a full turret and a better-penning round. The Ho-Ri also has some significant weaknesses, such as very weak armor protecting the transmission, which is a much bigger issue in a case mate than a turreted tank. Also I don’t think the comparison to the Maus holds much water, as it has basically double the LFP and side thickness. So overall, I disagree; not knowing how to fight against a tank doesn’t make that tank strong.
And I also very much disagree about all type 90 MBTs. The 11.7 lineup already struggles in full uptiers. Its round is just barely good enough, and it’s armor is just barely good enough. Having only 3 crew instead of 4 also reduces its survivability, and while the T-80U at the same BR also only has 3 crew, it also gets ERA (not on the Type 90), a much better round (50mm more pen), and an ATGM. The Type 60’s mobility and reload are the only things that keep it competitive at its current BR, moving it up would kill it.
You can do that in many tanks… not just Russian ones lol.
Also, the track trick only works if your shell has enough HE filler.
- My list is a few years old, I update it periodically
- The Type 99 has very good mobility.
- I put the M50 at 7.3 and the Type 60 at 7.0
Do you still think the conqueror deserves 8.0
i have get 0.50caled from planes with the sta3 and type61
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thats my problem he things that tanks like the Conqueror need to go high while the KV220 needs to go down, tanks like the IS-6 to go down and the HoRi Production to go up
So personally I wouldn’t entirely opposed to the KV220 specifically going up to 6.3 based purely on how it looks but I don’t play enough 5.0 britain to actually know how annoying this thing is to shoot at volumetric wise. If BR compression wasn’t a problem, I do genuinely all of the medium and heavies in britain’s 7.7 pool could just drop to 7.3 no problem. Their ammo layout is genuinely atrocious (seriously, is a stablizer so good that the primary ammo rack HAS to be right next to the driver?) and in general they aren’t that much better armor-wise than the soviet or german things they have to contend with. The only potential problem I see with that is 6.3 uptiers but like, make the matchmaker better so that’s not as much of a problem lmao.
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7.7 Britain is solid but not broken or bad, they have nothing that is needed to go down or up
I agree with you 100%, I just also think that it’s not entirely fair for 7.7 britain to have to get full uptiered into 8.7 territory almost every game because so many Big 3 players are queuing into 8.7 that the matchmaker decides to make every game a full uptier. I recognize that’s not a britain exclusive problem but at the same time 8.7 is also home to some of the dumbest vehicles in the entire game (Turm III and T58 come to mind immediately). When all you have going for you is a full stab and you get full uptiered to where that’s common with everything, plus more on top of that, plus the premiums in the big 3 are ridiculous, it just becomes a genuinely miserable experience. This would also be very fixed by the matchmaker getting better but gaijin will never do that lmao. This is a very similar experience to queuing 4.0 britain actually thanks to the amount of shermen and soviet heavies above 4.0 giving constant uptiers.
It still has its stabilizer right? So yes.
all 7.7 suffers in full uptiers because they go to full stab apfsds zone
If most of the other tanks I prompted to move do move, the Kv-220 would likely stay 6.0
However, it would still receive the 7.4 → 6.7 sec reload buff.
because it has a stab doesn’t make that a difference, its slow, bad reload, bad shell and mid armor
I’d like to push back a little but on the bad shell argument. The conqueror’s shell is finnicky, sure, but it’s very good. Gaijin absolutely needs to fix it, but it’s not at all bad.
The armor package makes it amazing.
The round is great, the reload isn’t the worst thing… it’s no Is-4 or IS-3
Stab it just the cherry on top.
kv220 dominates at down tiers and suffers in up tier, its okey as it is now
its British apds, so many times it does nothing
still its bad and you want it to go to 8.0 where will be able to see 9.0…
It quite literally cannot play 6.7 or 7.0 matches…
It doesn’t have the mobility / penetration required for these brs.
5.0s can kill it easily. It has about 80mm~ armor around the breech.
You can command hatch it very easily as well, which almost always kills the gunner, a loader, and the commander.
really ? in theory yes but never in action
good luck hitting it
yea i have never seen a kv220 without 10 killos of bushes on top of it
you have the Kv220 yourself go play 5 games and come back and tell me how many kills you take