Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

hey buddy, did you know that 7.7 can match against 6.7 and 8.7?

yeah, did you know that anybody can choose to uptier a vehicle but nobody can choose to downtier one

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oh my god shut UP. your point is genuinely irrelevant and does not even try to address anything. If what you were saying held literally any balancing relevance the sturer emil would still be 6.7

I mean, I don’t get what you don’t understand.

No relevance

“no relevance” BROTHER THAT VEHICLE HAS ONLY GONE DOWN IN BR.

I don’t understand why you’re so against even ATTEMPTING to lower the Falcon’s BR. If it’s too overpowered you just put it back. It’s not like I’m asking to drop the maus to 4.3 or something ridiculous like that. What I’m asking to try has genuine thought behind why I think it would work and your only retort to it is “you can’t downtier a vehicle on purpose but you can uptier it” as though that matters remotely in terms of BR balancing. You genuinely sound like someone who would cry and moan about the proposed APHE nerfs.

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You got a habit of saying stuff with no relevance

I’m saying you are buffing the Falcon, not making it “more balanced” which implies nerfing.

yes because adding more vehicles it can’t really do anything to into its matchup pool is an objective buff. you’re so smart and intelligent do you also play exclusively nations with APHE (the answer is yes)

choice of BRs before: 8.3-13.0. choice of BRs after: 8.0-13.0. Hope this helps, more options is not a downside

u didnt even try looking at my profile

You genuinely sound like gaijin with how you only think about numbers and never any context behind how things work within those numbers.

You play the big 3 in ground battles I actually looked at your profile before I even posted it.

I have spaded the entire nations of France and Italy in ground RB except for the rank 9 tanks… and have more playtime in these two nations than any other nation in the game. I also have UK up to rank 6 or 7. Left that part out huh

Good job, you managed to spade France and another APHE nation. Do you want a cookie? I’d also point out that you’re enabling gaijin’s incompetence financially but you’re smart enough to figure that out on your own.

I genuinely don’t care how much time you’ve wasted with this game, you haven’t given me a counterargument beyond “you can bring it to more games” as if that matters in terms of balancing. You want an actually bad balancing opinion that I genuinely believe at this point? Drop the FV4202 to 6.7. 6.7 britain is fucking dogshit and needs it. Badly.

And I guess UK is another APHE nation? I’ve played like 7 of the nations up to rank 7, and you still act like I’m some noob lol

Also calling Italy an “APHE nation” pretending like italy is strong or something just because some of its vehicles get aphe is funny

If you mean premiums, bought them all many years ago, not that it matters

You do though that’s why you brought it up yourself

You implied it was a nerf. I’m just saying it’s very obviously a buff using common sense. If you don’t want to downtier it then just don’t and continue playing it at its 8.3 BR and nothing changed

No it doesn’t, skill issue

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  1. So what about the Aubl HVG?
  2. No. The KV’s are already a bit higher than they should be besides, the KV1C, and KV1 (Sweden)

I quite like Britain, and my major nation is Russia.

I have top in USA, Germany, Russia, France, Italy, Japan, and Sweden.

Britain’s gameplay prioritizes high pen shots and good shot placement. Less after damage, but critical and instant knockout shots usually if you have a semi decent idea of where to aim.

Guys debate the the topic not the user and if you can’t do that move it to DM’s or leave each other alone !

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The Falcon wouldn’t even see that many hellcats, as the M41 and T92 would take over with their much better guns.

Valentine XI

  • Arcade Battle BR: 3.0 → 3.3
  • Realistic Battle BR: 2.7 → 3.0
  • Reload Speed: 5.0 s → 6.25 s
  • Correct missing ESS (Bug Report)
  • Correct hull roof armor (Bug Report)
  • Correct automotives (Bug Report)

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Rationale
In the upcoming major update, all British tanks with the QF 75 will be able to fire filled M61 APHECBC, dramatically improving their capabilities. The Valentine XI is the only one of these tanks that truely concerns me however due to its low BR.
I think something will have to give. The combination of decent armor and a very reliable gun would just be too strong to stay at 2.7. It’s going to need to go up. Since it has much more cramped turret conditions compared to that of a Sherman, a reload nerf would also make sense.

It’s also currently missing an ESS system that would help further distinguish it from the Valentine IX.

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sir I specified the up-armored KV-1s. the other ones are fine. The up-armored KV-1s are genuinely almost impossible to deal with for 4.0 britain unless you spawn the achilles and britain tends to get the best pen in return for using solid shot.

the UK may as well be an APHE nation now that gaijin has decided to slopify low tier by giving the british 75 APHE. Why bother using the Cromwell 1 or Valentine 9 when you can just click the APHE button and not even give a shit about what you’re hitting when you pen? The six pounder has been made ENTIRELY redundant because gaijin has decided to homogenize all of low tier into the APHE slopfest. The Sherman 2 now has literally no reason to be run because the Cromwell V is that but smaller and faster. The ONLY tank with the british 75 that needed the APHE was the Churchill VII.

oh cool you’re one of those people who think saying “get good” is a genuine argument against any complaint. The british 6.7 lineup is DOGSHIT. The ratels are garbage, the FV is bad, you have 2 artillery vehicles, an unstabilized centurion, the tortoise, and the charioteer for ground vehicles (no the Centurion mark 2 doesn’t count it’s premium and it’s an event vehicle). For air power you have a few spit/seafires, 2 tempests, the Hornet, and bombers. The tortoise wouldn’t even be that bad if it had its APDS. Now yes, nothing is stopping you from using stuff like the comet or avenger or stuff like that, but that really doesn’t improve the lineup much. 6.7 britain is easily the weakest point for britain apart from the 2.x BR area.

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I was killing KVs with my Excelsior with ease lol.

I AM TALKING ABOUT UP-ARMORED KV-1S I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE KV-1 IN GENERAL

if I need to make it even MORE obvious: The KV-1E, C, and the swedish premium. How are war thunder players this illiterate