Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

while i do love both the m47 and ru251, having your lineup where the base non discounted cost is 100 usd, is not practical, and even then those are your only real vehicles, the weisel and luchs are both meme machines that cant do much.

also for the man panther, youre forgetting the poor side armour. you know a very critical weak spot for early panthers. its like not bringing up the jumbo’s lower side plate as being a weakspot, doing so is just a disservice for your own argument.

Generally tank battle are head to head.
So no, I don’t generally account for side armor.

Especially when the VK, and jumbo are meant to be played head on.

As for the m47 and Ru251, I only buy stuff when it’s 50% off or more.

I just noticed the KV-1E just does not get the BR-350SP APBC round of the KV-1 (L-11) for whatever reason. Wouldn’t be a huge pen boost over BR-350B, but I see no harm in adding that round so that it has one more potential option against better armored vehicles.

Yeah, I can agree that the IS-2’s are a bit overtiered, especially the model '44. Gajin really wanted to make the IS-2 an analogue to the Tiger II imo, when they just aren’t comparable. I’m fine with them going down, but remove the BR-471D round from the '44. It’s a 50’s round anyways that would be better if saved for the IS-2M to make it more distinct from the WW2 versions.

Given the lack of brain cells the players here have I expect the Sotka to move up to 4.3 while the better T34s sit at 4.0

Still imo, the best 4.0 tank hands down and the others at 4.3 and 4.7 are the best tanks for their BR

Ngl excelsior over all. And if it’s getting HE filler in the M61, it’s gonna be the absolute goat.

Yeah except one is locked to an event vehicle and the other is widely available

The Churchill VII is worse than the III imho. The extra armor is not worth using the british 75, and that armor barely matters when almost every proper tank you see can just kill you frontally anyway through the tracks.

I’ll be so real the main reason I’m against the M61 filler for britain is that I do not want low tier britain to become yet another APHE slop tree.

after a weak i saw again a kv220, it was a down tier and he got 8 kills before dying(+assists ,cap) , so i don’t thing it needs anything, no br reduction no reload buff because it already destroys the 5.0, you cant believe it will be balanced if it faces 4.7
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I remember fighting 4.7s lol, God how easy it was, especially since nobody else has the numerous amount of heavies like Russia or the very balanced T34-57, only people who will defend Russian 4.7 tanks are seal clubbers lol.

Hey I’ll take the KV-220 at 5?7 so I can abuse it even more lol

i mean… they are pretty easy to kill

why would t-34-57 go up higher

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It shouldn’t it’s a compression problem but imo it’s definitely one of the best 4.7 tanks, solid armor and punchy gun with good mobility

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yeah if you cant aim

The amount of people that can’t aim around the low BRs is frightening lol, had a guy sneak up to my side and literally miss by shooting over me at like 400m.

Idk it’s probably just the average new player but so many people just shoot and pray I swear

To be fair, it’s armor isn’t bad. In a downtier, and especially considering the decompression step that just happened, you’re still fighting a lot of people using the American 75mm and equivalents, where the hull is immune and the turret (On the tech tree variant, at least) is a reasonbly small target to hit at medium range. And there’s always that driver’s port which will somehow always eat every 17 pounder round I fire at it.

Not to say that the tank is unbalanced where it is. Just that it’s overall characteristics put it as one of the strongest 4.7s. Good firepower, good mobility, decent armor for what it is. I’d definitely put it a step above stuff like the Firefly.

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I wasn’t really considering this

That’s my main thing it was already an exceptional vehicle for 4.7 and yet I never see anyone talk about it especially after all the 3.7s basically get sentenced to be food for the 4.7s more often.

The T-34-57 is good, it’s small, fast, well armored, and has a solid gun sure it’s definitely not nearly as good in an uptier but for the 4.x bracket imo it’s like a faster heavy tank with how often people screw up shots on the thing

The two are the same BR, but should not be used in the same way.
I’d say they are fairly close in balance if used correctly.

Best version of the Firefly is the Italian IC version with better UFP protection.

moving the t-34-57 up to anything below 6.0 isn’t going to fix the problem. the matchmaker is garbage and mostly gives uptiers