Puma was 8.3 to begin with, with 112mm pen~ which lasted about a week or two because it was literally running over enemy teams. Then became and 8.7 and a couple weeks later 9.0 then a few months later 9.3 and about 6-8 months later a 9.7 if I recall. Then finally a 10.3
Yes I agree the IS-2s are a bit over Br’d
BMP-2M is not a monster. Generally its ATGMs are pretty easy to dodge since they’re a bit slow. It’s 30mm is pretty good, but requires you to brawl, and well… your a light tank.
T-34-85 STP also gets Br-367 which the KV-220 cannot fire. Therefore, the most logical balancing factor would be to make it reload faster, since some people want it to be 5.7, and most want it to stay 6.0
Also, lol… speaking of goofy things, my buddies and I were playing in Tunisia at 7.0 and we flanked and killed a KT, I was in a T29 and saw a nashorn looking at our spawn on the sea side. So I tracked him and told one of my two friends to box him in on the right, then I began to push him into the ocean, and he slowly slipped over the cliffs until he fell in and drowned, we were all laughing so damn hard.
The KORNET is the fastest ATGM in game (and the best i believe)
Still a T34-85 in 6.3 isn’t good only and only because its gets a better shell, stab and smoke
lol in Tunisia was a M18 in top of the bridge in A and i had flanked them with a Jagdtiger, so i got in the start if the bridge i shot the wood and the m18 collapsed and got stacked bellow so i did the only reasonable thing and i throw myself on top of the M18 and i killed it but i got stacked myself, and after the M18 bomb me while i was upside down
The obvios the LOSAT…
Then you have the atakas, krizantema, rubin, 9m119m1 or acra, the kornet is speed is similar to the tow, it just have a better sustainer, so at range have a higher average velocity.
Imo, it just should not get this round. The STP is a discontinued immediate post-war protype, whereas BR-367 is a 50s round iirc. I’d rather this round be saved for a 1946 production T-34-85 that actually stayed in service long enough to receive this round.
If the STP has to drop in BR because of the removal of this round, than so be it.
Btw, no missile aside from fire and forget, are “fast enough”, when you have LRF and apfsds, the kornet takes over 4s to hit anything over 1km, at that point they have more than enogh time to shoot you and get back into cover before the missiles arrives
If it was flat / 90 degree armor you might have a valid point.
Since it is angled armor, you do not have a valid point.
The Panzer 3 L and M all have small differences and yet are each 1 step removed. None of these differences are as great as the armor difference between the VK and the D. Precedent has already been set.
Just factoring reload rate the tiger2 is far superior to the t30 which has 199 max pen and 24 sec reload with ACE crew! It’s also superior to the t265e5 with better all around armor and ammo…185 pen isn’t close to 237! Furthermore Shermans frequently face Tiger2 and this isn’t even a close match;!
“ In May 1946, trials began involving four modified T-34-85s. The results were positive; firing accuracy while moving at speeds up to 25 km/h increased by a factor of 2.5–3. A batch of 30 vehicles was proposed, as well as the design of a stabilizer for the T-34-100. However, both the 85 mm guns and the T-34 platform had already become obsolete, resulting in the termination of the program”
It is a may 1946 tank… and has the same gun as the:
T-34-85
T-44
Time period and service life. It was discontinued well before the round entered service.
Tbh, they could plausibly remove it from the T-44 aswell, though I imagine it would get annoying if 5.3’s had to face it.
Weirdly enough in my experience the 6 pounder has a pretty decent time penning the VK. Obviously having more raw pen than the american 75 helps but that tends to fall flat against, say, shermans and such because they’re obese rounded and angled. tldr 6 pounder goated except against fat americans and soviet turrets
It’s lacking even for 6.3s it’s 137~ pen with better angle pen, and decent filler.
Yes you trade mobility for armor, but at some point armor becomes irrelevant and mobility matters more.
Hence uptiers, where your mobility matters more, as what you face has astoundingly better firepower.
The Jumbo is “supposed to be an easy” penetrating shot for that cannon / shell, but often it’s a complete gamble, even at point blank.
I just don’t see a good reason to keep it or the Heavy tank no.6 in the state they are.
Especially the heavy tank no.6, as it’s the worst 6.0 by far.