They would not be the same br.
Panther D: 5.7
Vk.30.02: 5.3
The Vk has increased torque and acceleration due to lack of armor, it also
The Vk only lacks 20mm frontal armor on the hull and turret btw, and has the same firepower.
They’re so similar in fact, they should’ve been the same br to begin with.
Incorrect. I do not only “play the KV-220” I have only 73 matches in it.
It’s cannon is not effective to fight 6.7s or 7.0s
Do you know why the T-34-85 STP, and the T-44(FM) kind of can? (Fight 6.7s and barely 7.0s). Meanwhile the KV-220 cannot?
correct, you do play other vehicles, however thats not what i meant and you know it, i was stating that you only play the kv220, when youre playing that br.
you cant weasel out of this because other people in this thread pointed out that most heavy tanks dont deal with uptiers well, yet your counter argument is, you dont have other vehicles because you only want to play the kv220.
What? Go find where I ever said:
Also,
Also incorrect, many heavy tanks can deal with a full uptier. Additionally, I do not play the KV-220 the most at that br.
If I had the choice between the 220 and the heavy tank no.6 (effectively similar tanks, both are likely slightly over br’d) I’d much rather take the Heavy tank no.6, as it’s turret it technically better, and it’s faster in mobility, and turret traverse.
The hull armor is technically better on the 220, but again the turret armor is better on the Tiger.
They have the same reload, and the normal Tiger gets smoke grenades, in which the KV-220 and No.6 do not.
Yeah, uptiers were decently common before the BR changes. However, now you literally CANNOT get your own BR or a downtier, it’s pretty bad lol.
Before the br change, it was like 75% full downtiers, now it’s like 100% full uptiers
not at 4.0 lmao, especially not for british 4.0.
also I can guarantee that british 8.X has not gotten any better and will be 100% full uptiers like usual
Yes it was 75% downtiers for 4.0 Britain.
My excelsior is proof.
we have vastly different experiences because I was getting near constant uptiers of some variety
Oh yeah, me and my 3 buddies were all playing the hell out of the Excelsior because it’s an REALLY good tank… and we just got it.
ok queuing with friends and solo queuing are vastly different experiences of course you’re gonna get a matchmaker experience different than me
China:
VT5: 11.7->11.0
Why on earth is this tank at 11.7 while the Booker is at 10.7?
i cant disagree on that.
i have only 1 tank left to finish the soviet ground TT so i know very good were Russia suffers, the IS-2 1944 should be 6.3 the IS-2 at 6.0 and then add the IS-2M at 6.7
yes because it was 8.7
BMP-2M is a monster and ages better than the puma in almost everything and its fine at 10.3 so its seems unfair the puma and bmp2m be in the same br
so that now when you fire at the turret and you lose all of the modulus and maybe all the ammo its useless the same with the Namers if a dude 0.50cal you or a random sabot hit you you lose all the ammo and good luck getting it back, tanks with external ammo should get ammo boxes , so as you said it yourself the PUMA is constantly getting Nerfed why not moved it at 10.0 and i don’t thing so 9.0 will have a problem killing it
lol i do this all the time if i didn’t play goofy i would have leave the game
i don’t want anything to happened to it, at 6.0 its a good tank as it is no need to change anything as for a reload they could cut of same seconds but still it doesn’t need them. (and reminder the T-34-85(STP) IS 6.3 for no reason than the stab, if anything should get a br redaction it should be the STP )
Work out the effective armor of the front plates for the VK and and the D.
It’s not “only 20 mm”.
Even with solo queue.
I was just saying I was playing it a lot with them cuz we all happened to get it.
Puma was 8.3 to begin with, with 112mm pen~ which lasted about a week or two because it was literally running over enemy teams. Then became and 8.7 and a couple weeks later 9.0 then a few months later 9.3 and about 6-8 months later a 9.7 if I recall. Then finally a 10.3
Yes I agree the IS-2s are a bit over Br’d
BMP-2M is not a monster. Generally its ATGMs are pretty easy to dodge since they’re a bit slow. It’s 30mm is pretty good, but requires you to brawl, and well… your a light tank.
T-34-85 STP also gets Br-367 which the KV-220 cannot fire. Therefore, the most logical balancing factor would be to make it reload faster, since some people want it to be 5.7, and most want it to stay 6.0
Also, lol… speaking of goofy things, my buddies and I were playing in Tunisia at 7.0 and we flanked and killed a KT, I was in a T29 and saw a nashorn looking at our spawn on the sea side. So I tracked him and told one of my two friends to box him in on the right, then I began to push him into the ocean, and he slowly slipped over the cliffs until he fell in and drowned, we were all laughing so damn hard.
Your still skipped the fact, it’s a mere 20mm plate thickness difference.
The KORNET is the fastest ATGM in game (and the best i believe)
Still a T34-85 in 6.3 isn’t good only and only because its gets a better shell, stab and smoke
lol in Tunisia was a M18 in top of the bridge in A and i had flanked them with a Jagdtiger, so i got in the start if the bridge i shot the wood and the m18 collapsed and got stacked bellow so i did the only reasonable thing and i throw myself on top of the M18 and i killed it but i got stacked myself, and after the M18 bomb me while i was upside down
It isnt.
Fired by a ground vehicle, if not what is fastest?