The difference is that the Sherman can take advantage of M61’s strengths where the Churchill VII, even if it had the APHE, cannot. It’s not mobile enough and the pen is supremely mid in a world where almost every game is a 5.7 uptier
Lol. Such a double standard. The NA75 isn’t much faster but for some reason you say that’s fine.
You’re the one who said the Mk VII needs to go to 4.3 which absolutely would make the NA75 redundant.
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It would actually be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the APHE, precisely because it’s too slow. In uptiers, you’re forced into fights against heavies you cannot reliably frontally pen without aiming for cupola weakspots, except you’ve only got AP and thus hitting a cupola results in maybe killing the commander if you’re lucky.
Give it US M61, and it can play more like a Jumbo, sniping Tiger, VK and IS cupolas. It probably wouldn’t be enough of a buff to go up, but given how Gaijin treats minor nation balancing, it might be. Either way, it would not make the NA75 redundant. It’s the lack of a lineup that does that.
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No.
Weak armor and sluggish. Their only benefit is the main gun. 4.0 is fine for the H.
And though Pz 4 J is a “later” model, it is a step DOWN. Should be 3.7 - same as the G.
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Yep all the panzers are fine now, the only one that could be 3.7 is the swedish one because it has a totally much slower turret and no extra armour
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For anyone that says Maus and Pz IV need a lower br. No, they dont
Nuke with maus and pz IV, also i got an uptier to 8.0
Tbh just the pz IV H is a good 4.3-4.7 material, the others are good in 3.7-4.0
waow, you did an easier version of a spookston video, waow
unrelated but I think the flakbus is annoying enough on low tier maps that I would be completely fine with it being moved to 6.7. The thing is not overpowered, not in the slightest, but sniper vehicles like that genuinely make low tier maps even worse than they already are.
Also also I’d like to give some push back on the 6 pounder needing a nerf for the Churchill III to drop it to 3.7. I think if the matchmaker were better, dropping it to 3.7 would be completely fine. The issue is, almost every BR has a problem of almost every game being an uptier. Additionally, the 6 Pounder is a great gun, but it has problems shooting at Shermen and soviet stuff. They aren’t unkillable, but they’re extremely annoying and somewhat precise, made worse by the epidemic of level 100 players putting bushes on their tanks because they’re annoying.
It’s not an artificial nerf, it’s a historical correction. It’s going to happen eventually. The Churchill III model Gaijin uses has a 6-Pdr Mk III. Same gun as the Crusader III.
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the churchill iii actually mounted the Mark V six pounder in 1944
Yes, but that’s not what the in game model is.
What we have in game.
What the Mk V looks like.
Gaijin have given it the wrong gun.
And why does it matter? It doesn’t have the Six Pounder APDS so it’s not like the muzzle break does anything. This is quite literally an arbitrary nerf that would do nothing except make the Churchill worse to play just for “realism”. Genuinely why do you even care, it’s not like you even play the Churchill III.
BR 4.0 is totally broken right now.
I’m not sure if it’s just me, but literally ~95% of the 30 or so games (all in the U.S.) I’ve queued since the br adjustments have been AT LEAST a 4.3 uptier (and that’s the best case scenario, usually it’s 4.7 or 5.0).
Obviously it’s not impossible to do well in these situations, but it is annoying nonetheless.
I’m not sure, maybe it’s just bad luck on my part? Is anyone else having this problem?
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A lot of people are playing the higher tiers to feed on the newly moved up 4.0 tanks
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That’s what I suspected. Hoping it goes back to normal soon.
Every game as an uptier is just rough lol.
Me personally I’ve just been abusing the 3.0 and 3.3 since now that the majority of the 3.7 seal clubber have no competition the already busted 3.x vehicles got even stronger
This game is based and marketed on realism, with Gaijin long accepting reports based on historical accuracy, making this report being nothing new. (Community Bug Reporting System here is it if you want to read it).
So with that said, Gaijin has two choices with fixing the Churchill Mk.III’s 6-pdr, the first is to rename the gun in the statcard and change around a few numbers, with the second being to spend multiple hours remodelling the game model to fit the statcard.
Which seems easier to you?
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Not gonna happen, more nations have 4.7 lineups like Russia or 4.3 like Germany, few nations have a flat 4.0
More nations definitely have a 5.0 than the other BR’s so I doubt it’ll change when it comes to getting screwed by uptiers
It does do something, having the wrong gun means more velocity and more penetration.
I do bug reports, I care about realism in this game. So does Gaijin, as they accept and implement these reports.
If you don’t like it, then well, complain to them for allowing it.
I wish you were wrong, but I have to agree.