I didn’t mind the Chi to at 5.0 with the Chi ri honestly, never played them at 4.7 but they seemed pretty good from what I remember
There pretty alright, but comparing them to other tank around that rank they should be at most at 4.3
Edit: or at least gaijin should decompress lower br better
I guess, big thing is to move the Turan III to 5.0 or 4.7 then now that is a proper gross vehicle lol, it’s definitely my favorite seal clubber tank because most people won’t admit Italy is strong in the lower tiers despite imo being one of the better nations for fun OP stuff.
Turan definitely should be higher than the Panzer IV by .7 or 1.0 at minimum
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Did they buff it recently?
The Turan? It’s literally a IS-2 Panzer IV with smoke and more trolly armor. Just reverse and drop smokes and watch as you decimate the enemy team with your superior armor and mobility, go try it, it’s insanely fun to abuse
Only people who say the Turan shouldn’t go up are the Italian players who wanna abuse it lol especially with the inferior Panzers being the same BR
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4.7 would be fine but I don’t think trolly armor warrants 1.0 above pz4
Engine block as armor is crazy especially with its speed, seriously try it, it’s insanely fun
Performance wise, the QF 75 and 75 mm M3 are identical. Same barrel length, shared cartridge, same ballistics. The QF 75 only performs slightly worse than the M3 in-game on one singular round, because the unfilled M61 is a bit lighter than filled M61. Gajin didn’t recalculate the muzzle velocity to compensate for reduced weight (assuming the propellent charge is the same, it should have ~630 m/s mv). If they did, it would have identical penetration.
The two guns only differ in construction since the QF 75 a 6-pdr bored out to fire US 75 mm ammunition.
Irregardless, my point stands that a higher BR vehicle should get sufficient rounds to make it actually competitive there. There is little real reason to factor the NA75’s existence into weather or not the Churchill VII should get APHE.
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Huh? They’d be identical.
Regardless, this means nothing to the point. That being the NA75 wouldn’t be redundant if the Mk VII received the APHE. They’re separate BR’s. That’s like saying the M4 at 3.7 is redundant when the M4A2 is 4.0
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The difference is that the Sherman can take advantage of M61’s strengths where the Churchill VII, even if it had the APHE, cannot. It’s not mobile enough and the pen is supremely mid in a world where almost every game is a 5.7 uptier
Lol. Such a double standard. The NA75 isn’t much faster but for some reason you say that’s fine.
You’re the one who said the Mk VII needs to go to 4.3 which absolutely would make the NA75 redundant.
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It would actually be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the APHE, precisely because it’s too slow. In uptiers, you’re forced into fights against heavies you cannot reliably frontally pen without aiming for cupola weakspots, except you’ve only got AP and thus hitting a cupola results in maybe killing the commander if you’re lucky.
Give it US M61, and it can play more like a Jumbo, sniping Tiger, VK and IS cupolas. It probably wouldn’t be enough of a buff to go up, but given how Gaijin treats minor nation balancing, it might be. Either way, it would not make the NA75 redundant. It’s the lack of a lineup that does that.
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No.
Weak armor and sluggish. Their only benefit is the main gun. 4.0 is fine for the H.
And though Pz 4 J is a “later” model, it is a step DOWN. Should be 3.7 - same as the G.
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Yep all the panzers are fine now, the only one that could be 3.7 is the swedish one because it has a totally much slower turret and no extra armour
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For anyone that says Maus and Pz IV need a lower br. No, they dont
Nuke with maus and pz IV, also i got an uptier to 8.0
Tbh just the pz IV H is a good 4.3-4.7 material, the others are good in 3.7-4.0
waow, you did an easier version of a spookston video, waow
unrelated but I think the flakbus is annoying enough on low tier maps that I would be completely fine with it being moved to 6.7. The thing is not overpowered, not in the slightest, but sniper vehicles like that genuinely make low tier maps even worse than they already are.
Also also I’d like to give some push back on the 6 pounder needing a nerf for the Churchill III to drop it to 3.7. I think if the matchmaker were better, dropping it to 3.7 would be completely fine. The issue is, almost every BR has a problem of almost every game being an uptier. Additionally, the 6 Pounder is a great gun, but it has problems shooting at Shermen and soviet stuff. They aren’t unkillable, but they’re extremely annoying and somewhat precise, made worse by the epidemic of level 100 players putting bushes on their tanks because they’re annoying.
It’s not an artificial nerf, it’s a historical correction. It’s going to happen eventually. The Churchill III model Gaijin uses has a 6-Pdr Mk III. Same gun as the Crusader III.
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the churchill iii actually mounted the Mark V six pounder in 1944
Yes, but that’s not what the in game model is.
What we have in game.
What the Mk V looks like.
Gaijin have given it the wrong gun.