Ah, I see now. Just like Gaijin should have added helis to fill the gap between 9.7 and 12.7, right? But they never did. Or like the gap between 11.0 and 12.3 in tanks. Honestly, for me, the PUMA isn’t even an 11.0 tank to begin with; he could easily be at 10.7, just like the Boxer, especially since the PUMA is the only one at 11.0.
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You won’t get a second warning, Keep the topic civil.
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Didn’t we literally discuss this? The Soviet model is on par if not better for armor than the KV-1A, how is it that you’re still on this idea that the Soviet model should be a lower BR? Talk about biases, where is your evidence that’s its better rather than you just saying nuh uh?
Flakpanzer Gepard 1 with APDS 128mm pen. why is this cancer only on 8.3Br?? he killed me in my T72B and T90A and ZTZ96A and every time front armor. this is crazy on 8.3Br!!!
Only 40 rounds, 20 per gun both fired at the same time
It’s really not the APDS that makes it a monster, it’s the APIT (APHE) that only needs to penetrate once to kill the whole crew
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It’s the angeling. As I’ve literally said over and over again.
And I showed and tested that the difference isn’t that big and that on average the KV-1A is worse than the Zis-5 especially when angling because the armor is more thin when angled next to the Zis-5
So looks like moving the Re.2005(VDM) to 6.3 in both air and ground was intentional?
Where is the logic to moving an aircraft to a BR with zero ground vehicles for ground RB?
Why is ground RB BR still being tied to air RB BR for low tier? Anti tank capability and low altitude performance are much more important in ground RB, so BRs should be considered differently.
Not so sure about that.
My T-34-57 pumped 3 aphe shots into the flank (2 body, 1 turret) of a KV-85 and it still returned fire and killed me.
Not exactly what I’m talking about, but sounds like you should maybe aim better. One shot of 57mm APHE should blast the turret crew no problem
KV tank crews are just built different
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LOL - I aimed at back-3rd of turret, then mid body, then forward body.
Gaijin’s damage models are unpredictable and at times very goofy.
The APDS is not the issue. The issue is the magical APHE APIT rounds that seep into tiny invisible cracks in armor and nuke your crew instantly.
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Kv tanks have a lot of room, for a 57mm that’s a bit of a feat, sure it can be done, but it will likely require 2 shots.
I think BMPT spam killed top tier for me. I have much more fun playing 9.3BR Japan & Germany or 10.0BR Israel. That didn’t use to be the case.
11.7BR isn’t high enough for the BMPT imo
It shreds through everything it faces
12.3BR or 12.7BR is recommended
The T58 should probably be 9.0BR instead of 8.7BR
Decent armor and mobility.
Nearly instant reload.
Good shells
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It isn’t an Air RB/SB issue. This is about the Ground RB BR
BR won’t matter, it’s a bandaid fix the BMPT needs to have its damage model corrected but with how much money it makes gaijin won’t do that
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BMPT is easykill. with t72 or ZTZ96a or my leopard 2a4(10,7Br) or wolfpack is only 1 shot and BMPT is dead. BMPT is not strong. give APFDS from 2s38 and BMPT can go on 12,7 :) HSTVL, 2s38,ajax. PUMA(10.0Br) this is CANCER! BMPT is easykill. learn how kill easy BMPT.