Yes, but you’ve forgotten everyone complains because it’s Russian, despite the fact it’s actually better than the TT Russian one.
Far better doesn’t really matter because of compression and the effectiveness between the two isn’t large enough to warrant a change in BR. Especially now that the old vehicles gaijin decomped by moving some of the 4.x vehicles up are now back to the same BR difference as their old 3.7 prey
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It does matter. Full uptiers. Tigers vs a KV-1 is diabolical.
Let alone, the KV 1942 has a vastly better turret.
They both have volumetric now and the KV-1A is slightly better frontal armor but given it has flat plates the armor then becomes the same as the KV-1 Zis-5 except the Zis-5 has better angled turret armor which is more important when needing to reload. Regardless there simply isn’t a big enough difference between the two.
If you want it moved up why not bring more attention to the missing turret armor on the KV-1A so gaijin moves it up
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And no, it was never one full br step higher.
T-34, M4A1, Panzer IV F/G were ALL 3.3 before yesterday. 3.3 is one full BR step below 4.3. You only appear to defend russian tanks, but man, at least put some effort in your post.
your crazy to think the KV-1E, B should go higher, they can struggle against a lot of 5.0 tanks due to their lack of pen.
Jumbo Sherman currently sits at 5.7 also struggles to pen 6.7 tanks, as do most heavies when you play them in uptiers, you just know not to play heavies as first spawn in uptier where armor doesn’t really matter. That is actual skill issue if you bring a Jumbo to face King Tigers and cry when you can’t pen
T-14 is good, but I’m not sure it warrants a br increase either.
T-14 JUST like the KV1-Es struggle in uptiers THE SAME AS ALL HEAVIES, but in downtiers and its BR completely domintate, and I’m not making this up, statshark stats are there my dude. You completely FAIL to understand what I’m saying
Sounds like you struggle to kill heavy tanks and blame the brs vs your own skill.
Nice ad hominem but no, it’s not an issue of killing heavy tanks, I quite enjoy playing the Jumbo and T-34 and eating Tigers and IS. It’s an issue of seeing an army of seal-clubbing sweats who become impenetrable when they angle slightly because a tank particularly benefits from volumetric.
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Because then the others would be moved up and some people might have a harder time seal clubbing and farming events…
No he just wants the Finnish one up so he can play the Soviet one. I simply don’t care, once the Sturmi is here I couldn’t care less about the KV
Where in the hell did I ever say or imply that?
Stop assuming so much.
I was merely stating the Swedish one is better because it is
- The Pz.4 used to be 4.0 as did the Kv-1E, and many more.
- I am not defending “only Russian tanks” go look at the list in the beginning, and go to Italy.
- So you dont want heavy tanks to do what they’re supposed to do? Yeah. Sounds like a skill issue.
I don’t care that it USED to be 4.0, when was that? I’m talking about what these tanks were literally YESTERDAY and what they are TODAY.
Keep hitting your head against the wall defending these things. You did not refute anything without resorting to “haha skill issue bro”, clearly you don’t care about balance or fun, you just wanna sealclub and that’s okay buddy, just don’t pretend it’s anything else.
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And I stated it’s silly to think it will go up when the difference is so minimal it doesn’t matter.
We have far stronger vehicles at the same BR as their unupgraded counterparts
Who said anything about changing br???
If anything the panthers need to go up.
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Ah yes, I’m clearly a seal clubber.
Why is when you lot that are wrong a lot resort to one of three things?
A. He’s biased for Russia
B. He’s a seal clubber
C. He’s bad at the game
(Meanwhile none of those are true)
Wasn’t even talking about that, I meant upgraded versions of TT vehicles at the same BR as the unupgraded models
And? What would you want to do about it?
The KV-1C is 5.0 and is vastly better than the
KV-1 Zis-5, which is worse in armor over the KV-1 (1942)
Yeah because the KV-1A lost its armor for the C for balance because the C has the less heavy turret compared to the A because the A irl was from the first batch that put excess strain on the turret ring.
Gaijin swapped the armor values between the two
The KV-1C / 1942 have the better turret, this is just a fact.
No the fact is the KV-1C should have the 90mm armor and the KV-1A should have the 105mm armor, it’s been reduced for balance
Here is your better armor, tested at 500m with the Panzer IV
I don’t know about you but the rounded turret isn’t as OP as it was on release were it was all solid one piece that was very volumetric esq. It’s much weaker than it was before and now with the KV-1 Zis-5 getting volumetric it’s a lot more difficult to take out in certain overlapping parts, though idk why it didn’t have volumetric for years but whatever.
I’m sure they’ll all get volumetric, but the green mapping lies for a well known fact, it’s hard to trust as it can say 6 different things.
But generally speaking the KV-1 Zis’s turret is better angled, however the KV-1 (mod.42) turret is better all around, it is a very trolly turret, and is consistently used to bully (especially in the case of the KV-1C, not as much the mod.42).