Oh yeah there is, well whaddaya know
Yess the Type 61, i am not home, so I couldn’t check in game.
Sweet lil tank. I loved the normal one, so might as well get a premium one.
I need something to fill the void since I’m not as lucky as @ULQ_LOVER whom has things like the T18E2 and Surblinde

Tbh the Aubl 74 HVG, even as bad as it is, had never really gotten much in terms of viable reload buffs, and its ammo sits about 8-10 inches from the gun.
And the Aubl is BAD… like the 60mm darts do such little damage it’s actually sickening.
They did finally buff it to 5.0 secs recently, but 4.5 or 4.25 secs for a 60mm dart to be loaded by the commander seems more than reasonable. Granted, this tank only sits 0.3 br under the Turm III.
But they are nothing special at 6.7
I hope this is a troll post lmao
Or if you use the Stryker suspension ‘feature’
ST-A3 has a much smaller first-stage than the Type 61, and since it is autoloaded, once you run out you can’t reload until the first stage has been refilled.
Type 61 also gets smoke grenades, which can be useful while repairing or retreating.
If the ST-A3 was just a faster reloading M46 with worse armour and mobility, maybe it would be fine at 7.0 but the limited first stage too just brings it down.
Roughly 25s to reload the first stage and then reload the round.
Meanwhile non-first stage M46 / Type 61 reload their rounds in ~10s.
But I’d say the reverse speed and armour of the M46 mostly makes up for the lack of a 6s reload.
They recently buffed the M46’s turret rotation speed to 25.5 degrees per second too, so there’s that.
The argument can definetly be made that it could stay at 6.7 given the worse armour and that 90mm HEATFS isnt really anything too special, but I’d say the most optimal solution is simply BR Decompression, although we all know how Gaijin feels about that.
Yeah the reverse gear is a pretty big deal at that BR too I’d say, also last i checked M46 had slightly worse rotation than the Type-61 at 21 or so degrees, was the buff recent or am I mixing things up maybe?
Agreed.
The M46 had 21 degrees per second turret rotation speed, yes.
Worse than the Type 61’s / ST-A3’s 24 degrees per second.
Now it’s actually better than either of the two (25.5 that I said earlier), so there’s even less of a reason why they should be the same BR.
Though ST-A3 still has better gun elevation speed (6 degrees per second instead of the typical 4 degrees per second).
Personally I found them to be better than other 6.7s, as they can lol pen everything. And they’re quite mobile.
Sure they can be less effective than the Tiger II, but the Tiger II should likely be a 7.0 too.
I literally checked T-80B and it DOESN`T get thermals
Just add the ItPsV 90
The problem is still there. It’s a relatively fast armored vehicle with 35-mm guns with APHE capable of oneshotting things because of it’s bullshit mechanics and how it’s modelled. The whole problem doesn’t go away whatsoever.

it does in game when in real life it didn’t
Could always add Tridon or the ZSU-57-2M
The T-80BV has them irl. Granted they were prototypes afaik.
That’s not really exclusive to the T80 B given the T80U got them from their export trial model
the BV yes the B no and in game we have the B, so is too muck to ask for better transmission for the T80UD??
No, in game, we have the T-80B. Applying the upgrade package makes it a “BV” granted, it’s not a correct BV, it’s missing armor… but the principle stands
fair enough but still the T80UD could easily get the good transmission that just gives good reverse and natural steering now that’s is 10.7, not that it needs it a lot but i would be nice
I’m gonna call it hear, when we see the Fin mod T72 with 22koh reverse and 850hp and no other changes from a standard T72A it will be 10.3 or 10.7, lol just because of the reverse