Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

Agreed.

The M46 had 21 degrees per second turret rotation speed, yes.

Worse than the Type 61’s / ST-A3’s 24 degrees per second.

Now it’s actually better than either of the two (25.5 that I said earlier), so there’s even less of a reason why they should be the same BR.

Though ST-A3 still has better gun elevation speed (6 degrees per second instead of the typical 4 degrees per second).

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Personally I found them to be better than other 6.7s, as they can lol pen everything. And they’re quite mobile.

Sure they can be less effective than the Tiger II, but the Tiger II should likely be a 7.0 too.

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I literally checked T-80B and it DOESN`T get thermals

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it does in game when in real life it didn’t

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Could always add Tridon or the ZSU-57-2M

The T-80BV has them irl. Granted they were prototypes afaik.

That’s not really exclusive to the T80 B given the T80U got them from their export trial model

the BV yes the B no and in game we have the B, so is too muck to ask for better transmission for the T80UD??

No, in game, we have the T-80B. Applying the upgrade package makes it a “BV” granted, it’s not a correct BV, it’s missing armor… but the principle stands

fair enough but still the T80UD could easily get the good transmission that just gives good reverse and natural steering now that’s is 10.7, not that it needs it a lot but i would be nice

I’m gonna call it hear, when we see the Fin mod T72 with 22koh reverse and 850hp and no other changes from a standard T72A it will be 10.3 or 10.7, lol just because of the reverse

Why on earth isn’t the BMPT/72 on the list? Those things shouldn’t even be in the game to begin with, let alone 11.3. I think I have played less than 30 games between 10.3 and 12.0 since those monsters came out. Not kidding.

BMPT 11.3 > 12.7 (People tend to argue that its armament isn’t “top tier worthy”. Such is most definitely not the case. The 30mm canons have cracked accuracy compared to irl. This leads to the BMPT able to neutralize completely 3 or even 4 MBTs in 5/6 seconds or less. And of course, anything that the canons aren’t killing fast enough for your taste can be hit with missiles. The in-game model has an absurd number of little tiny individual armor pieces and modules which make its survivability virtually unrivaled. The raw armor is quite good. The hull-down abilities of the tank surpass things like the M901. You can’t kill in that position. When your ammo gets cooked off, the ammo crates allow for easy replenishment (Unlike any NATO IFV). Its also classified as a TD. This makes it cheap to spawn in. Even in a full down-tier its almost as cheap as a up-tiered MBT.)

BMPT-72 11.3 > 12.3 (For the same reasons as the BMPT. The BR has to be lower simply because its a premium and that’s about the only reason. The reduced crew number does do a little to decrease the survivability but no by much.)

In my opinion, these changes must happen with the next BR changes. These tanks are ruining over a fifth of Warthunder’s ground BR brackets.

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first of all you need to fix it itself, why can you have both 30mm fire APDS while irl only one can? first change is to make only one belt APDS and the 30mm will fire at the same time so the ammo will decrease from 900 APDS to 450 APDS and 450 APHE/HE that will fire at the same time, also remove the ammo box, and lastly make it when you ammo rack it blow up or at least destroy everything at the turret, then it can stay at 11.3

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BT-42 1.7 → 5.0 it’s blatantly OP with it’s reload and shell

Well, the tech tree BMPT also gets HE-TF, a better LFP, (arguably) better hull, and extra ERA side armour.

Needless to say, the tech tree BMPT is a lot better than the premium variant.

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I would like to propose some br change about the M13/40 (I, II, III) for Italy, currently they are almost the same with no big change, but the I version is at 1.7, the II and the III at 2.0, I personaly think that they should all put in 1.3 or max. at 1.7, especially for their armament wich have a max. penetration of 47mm (if im not wrong) that cannot pen almost any enemy in an uptier at 3.0

pls tell me you don’t actually believe this and its a bait or something

I see only like 3.7 vehicle and the bt42, so i dont understand why he say 5.0

its a meme tank, very experience players use it, you can 0.50cal the turret its not above 1.7 tank