Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

EFV is literally just a faster and slightly larger CV90 with more effective armor and a huge section of empty space to bait shots

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They’re nearly the same mobility wise.

Put that “slightly” behind “faster” and your post would have been 10x more accurate. The EFV is far more than just “slightly” larger.

The CV90 has internal armor, transmission, engine, and fuel placed between the crew and incoming shots. All the EFV gets is a spall happy frontal plate, with TONS of space for spall to spread out.

That’s pretty much worthless because you can’t fire to the side or behind, so if someone hits that “empty space” you will lose your engine and be unable to fight back.

I’d bet good money that you don’t own, nor have played the EFV.

Sound snor e like you don’t know how to play the EFV, I’ll say the 30mm trashmaster’s are definitely over tiered next to the Soviet bias mobiles, but I don’t agree that the EFV is the only one that should go down when it’s significantly better or on equal terms with other trashmaster’s.

Also I do own it, it’s on my 9.3 ground lineup I use for the US,

I never said it’s the only one that should go down. You’re the first to mention that.

Then you should list more than just the EFV in your statement, helps clear up a bit of confusion but yes that on me

If you’re so concerned with it, then do it yourself.

I have, it’s buried somewhere in this thread

its twice as big xD

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Ngl I love the cv9030, dropped a nuke with it in my very first game in it.

It’s small and nimble.

Just a smidge ;)

so move the PUMA to 10.0/9.7???

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what? the are just Tiger H1 and the wood armor in the OST doesn’t stop anything maybe get a gaijin moment from an heatfs round but everything else is the exact same

you can remove them now but at least the t80UD should get the better transmission (there is a ukrainian T80UD that can go -22kmh in reverse )

yea until they rework APDS no, the shell brakes in anything

thats overkill

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No. The rest of the Gepards should be 9.0 minimum anyways.

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same br as same light tanks?? if you give them full apds belts ok but they never had them irl so maximum is 8.7

The APHE is stronger than APDS. You can kill a T-72 frontally with the APHE, but not with the APDS. The Gepards are stronger than pretty much all light tanks at that BR.

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no, and yes if you get lucky, APDS is better when you fight MBTs specially soviet, and they are SPAA even if people use them ad TD the br placement should be out of how effective they are against planes not tanks

is this excelent armor in the same room with us? the 300mm promised armor only work at very small areas at the outline of the turret. around the barrel: even short 88 pens there and kills the breach and some crew. the roof is no match for any non apds round (ap/aphe has enough angle pen and heat just overpressurs same as he) lower hull is week too, same as side, angle the hull over 5° and you get penned via the road weels. all thet for 15 sec reload and 38 max speed is nowhere near a leo1 or other 8,0. Also the “addon armor” cant even relyable stop heat or he)

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The puma was added to the game as an 8.7 and is vastly more survivable.

It was literally unkillable at 8.7

  1. The wooden armor on the tiger can directly stop 75mm rounds, as well as being angled can even stop some of the earlier 122mm rounds. It is more than enough. Secondly, the other Tiger has its roof weak spot better protected, and actually blends in decently.

  2. I never have a problem with APDS, my only problem is the Conquerers reload, but I can easily play around that with the fully stabilized APDS launcher from hell. I loved spading that tank, and still maintain a high KDr in it.

  3. No, that’s exactly where the ITPSV leopard should go. All those Gepard like tanks are still fabulously under Br’d especially the Gepard. Which can quite literally kill most tanks. You can barrel a tank so rapidly with its APHE rounds, then track, and hit the commanders hatch for a kill. It is egregious at the br it currently is. The Gepard like tanks can literally 1 tank IS-4’s through the roof hatches, or even shot trapping the lower part of the turret.

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Shouldn’t even be stabilized, but Gajin decided to take a liberty modeling an inertia dampener used purely in long distance travel as a normal gun stabilizer.
Do you figure the Conq would need a BR change if it lost the stab?

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