What I submitted in the official BR change post is what I settled on. Probably shouldn’t have done it as a list, but it’s all there if you want to copy from it.
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Again you don’t own the tank, nor have ever played it. When I got it, 3-4 months back. I had out of 20 games 45% of games were 7.0, 45% of 6.7 and 10% were 6.0 I never got a single 6.3 match.
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Jumbo 76 has a low speed stab, and can bounce 85mms pretty reliably. Has a better reload, and a roof mounted HMG.
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That “little” weakspot gets hit far more often than you think, and I blame an old damage model.
The panthers machine gun port and turret face can be a bit trolly.
Also yes all the IS-2 variants are all bad.
Something needs to happen for sure. 3.7 tanks are 1 popping… while tanks with AP only have to do 5 pin point shots… at same BR is about as bad as it gets in the balancing dept
Churchill III and Valentine IX are bugged atm. Valentine IX has a 6-pdr Mk.V labled as a Mk.III, and the Churchill III has a 6-pdr Mk.III labeled as a Mk.V. Both cases have been reported, but apparently having the wrong gun only warrants being “forwarded as a suggestion”.
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If the Pz.IV H had its gun marked as the L/43 instead of the L/48, there would be a riot and it would be fixed in a month. But since it’s British tanks in this case…
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Since when do you need to own the tank to comment about it?
Sounds a lot like when I played the Black Prince…
should we lower its BR too?
And KV220 is at a lower BR, has extremely good hull armour when angled, has nuke APHE with better angle pen. What’s the problem?
Even then, it doesn’t stop that guy from reaching a 6KPS.
I agree with the machine gun port being trolly, but the turret mantlet isn’t that hard if you aim properly.
For the most part, yes.
The IS-2 is mediocre but it’s not too bad at 6.3. The 6.7 one, though, is terrible compared to the other great 6.7s but also shouldn’t be 6.3 (hence why we need more decompression).
Well, those 3.7s have reloads, and mobility or armour on their side.
The other AP-only tanks may be slightly underpowered, though a lot of them are pretty good at their BRs – for example the Black Prince, M4A1 (FL10) and Challenger.
Not really? Sherman feels very similar without checking, gets stabilizer and a round that 1 pops.
I feel no advantage at all, as even vs enemy with longer reloads, they still get their shots away before your 3-5 or whatever is needed with ap
I don’t like to generally add vehicles I have no personal experience in.
Also the BP is wayyy better than the Kv-220 lol it can easily kill things in an uptier, unlike the kv-220 which massively struggles against 6.7s.
Be logical my guy.
Don’t start pulling this crap
The BP has almost double the pen, similar armor, a quicker reload, smoke grenades, all for being slow.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s good. But it’s very slow and only has AP / APDS.
KV220 is just as good, if not better because of its one-shot potential and mobility over it.
Remember when people talked about how mobility is key? Or at least a major factor in whether or not a tank is good.
For being slow and little to no one-shot capability.
Slow doesn’t really matter until you notice that you typically can’t get into the battlefield before your team crumbles and enemy tanks surround you / pushes up and you get no kills.
And why are you spawning it in uptiers? Like all armor dependant tanks, it just makes sense to build your lineup in such a way that you have other tanks you can rely on when you’ve been uptiered. The Soviet 6.0 lineup isn’t exactly vast, but does feature a couple TDs which can hang in uptiers just fine. You don’t have to force yourself to play it outside of where it works.
It’s how I’ve managed a nearly 3.0 KD in my Maus. If I take out Germany 7.7, and see that I’ve been fully uptiered, or I’ve been put on a huge map, I just… don’t spawn it until I have to. I use the more flexible tanks in the lineup. I save the Maus for when it’s at it’s strongest.
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Dude… the Bp one shots all the time…
That argument is very null.
Why would I bring my 6.3s if I want to play 6.0?
That makes no sense.
I also have the T-V, which is arguably better in most ways, and often play that in uptiers.
But I WANT to play my KV-220 is like a smaller KV-4 (WoT version) which is a tank I admire a lot and wish they’d add.
With AP / APDS?
If you aim for ammo, but if they’re hull-down, good luck with that.
I only fire it’s APDS, and even hull down, the APDS is a monster.m
lol kv-220 can scratch a BP, while the BP will just lol pen it anywhere
Yes, because the T-V is useful in uptiers, the KV-220 isn’t so much.
But I am a rather good player and will take whatever I feel like playing that day out.
I’m not gonna say the Kv-220 can’t kill a KT, but generally, if it’s looking at you, you’re a goner.
T34s, T-26E5s, KTs etc, the kv-220 is just food for them.
Its AP is also quite useful, though. I recommend taking at least some for squishy targets.
Yeah it’s good.
You can also run away from a front-aspect BP no problem 😅
I mistyped, now edited. I did mean 6.0, you’ve got the Su-100 which, while not incredible, is just a Soviet 100mm you can cart around. The 2S1 is underrated as far as low tier artillery go, having a substantially faster reload than most of them. Plus the 5.7 staples are all decent when uptiered. And you even have a T-V. No reason to spawn the KV-220 in an uptier. The sooner they move the IS-2 down to where it belongs, the sooner you have another vehicle to bring.
OK, fine. I also want to play my TOG at times. But if I get a full uptier in it, I mostly don’t spawn it. I just keep rolling until I get a favorable matchmaker. If said matchmaker never arrives, and I decide to spawn it in an uptier anyways, I accept that it’s not going to perform at it’s best.
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Well, you’re not wrong:
That’s true, but so is it the same for any lower BR heavy, such as the Jumbo, IS-1, or Tiger E.
The KV220 isn’t anything special when it comes to that problem.