Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

Shoots the worst spot, expects a kill?

I’d be fine with that as long as it got hot 2 missiles.

If I had a nickel for every OP or shit vehicle that was actually just implemented wrong, I could just buy out Gajin to get reports fixed.

What does a T29 offer for a 7.7 vehicle

No? You just want non-USSR vehicles uptiered. It’s pretty plain to see. You have an EXTREME USSR favoritism bias. What do either of these offer as a 7.3 or 7.7 vehicle?

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Incorrect. Please use your eyes. If anything I have an “extreme” Italian bias.

Your just upset I put a tank you like on the list.

I’ve played a lot more vehicles than you if I recall, and know where nations are too strong or too weak, well balanced, or imbalanced.

Plus, saying that I have a bias is funny, when you have a 3.01 KDr in the T29 yourself, and you main air.
Coincidence?

This has to be ragebait… you lose more of my respect everytime you reply

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To be fair, the T29 is pretty strong at 7.0 and requires pretty much 0 effort to do well in (at least I barely have to try to maintain my stats in it).

Whether it should be moved up is a debate I’m mostly staying out of though.

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The T29 and T30 are far from trolly and potent. The T-34-85 is trolly and potent, having extremely BS volumetric (casually absorbing long 88s for some reason) and has both the mobility and firepower to compete at its BR.

The T29 and T30, however, have very easy to hit and well defined weakspots, they’re sluggish, they’re massive targets, and their reload stops them from being aggressive.

The T26E-1 at the same BR does everything the T34/30/29 does, but better.

Man, you come up with the most incorrect information ever.

I will gladly test your theory. I’ll get my KT out, (since you said long 88, and you can drive a T-34-85)

T29 and T30 can often bounce a lot more than your giving them credit for, sure they have their weak points, just as anything else does.
But they have good mobility, a decent reload for a 105, 3x or 4x HMGs which instantly disengage tracks, and can even barrel tanks.

T26E1 isn’t better than the T34/30/29 lol… that’s why I left it out of the list.

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So, let me get this straight. You don’t deny it, and have no valid response, so… you call rage bait?

Classic.

And I don’t care for your respect. I care for the respect of good balancing and Fun in the game.

Why would I sit here and debate with someone who clearly is not being rational or trying to have an honest discussion

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The hypocrisy is insane.
You haven’t had an honest discussion from the get go.

Okay tell what can’t the T29 do? Please, enlighten me. Because it can kill an IS-4 Maus, etc with ease and can bounce almost just as many rounds because it’s volumetric armor is extremely trolly.

Better yet, you think I’m so pro Russia, tell me, what’s so great of the Russian vehicles, at 7.3 / 7.7?
Refer back to this:

Count the nerfs to buffs per nation.

Maybe if you’re fighting the typical Russia/Germany main who aims for the thickest parts of your armor.

No, not really.

The T34 has a longer reload than both the T26E1 and the Tiger 2, which both get APHE btw.

Not really too important.

.50cals cannot take out barrels. Maybe some autocannons, but nothing significant.

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The T29’s pen, angle, pen and so on are better than a lot of 7.3s, and some 7.7s. (No I’m not going through the whole list). But I took an “OP” tank according to a lot of people the T-10A, and pitted it against the T29, and it was better in most regards.

Despite the area being a “non pen” for the T29, it doesn’t care.

The T29 has a better reverse gear over 7.7s and 3x HMGs.

The “Trolly” armor of the T29:

what’s crazy is the Surbassie will pen a T29 Hull at 2000meters easily, anywhere.
And before you say “oh you got Gaijined”
A IS-4 also shot him, in addition to others.

All over, weak spots, etc. and he lived.

T29 Is more than good at 7.3.

T29,30 will be ok in 7.3 as is is3. bigger ploblem is a tank with only a 30mm (and not even a fast one) being 10.3while all others are 9.7-9.3, move the puma to 10.0 (TAM 2C too)

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PUMA 10.3 → 10.0/9.7
A tank with just a 30mm in 10.3 is a joke while other tanks with the same mobility and way better firepower sit at 9.7 (bmp4) but other nato tanks with the exact same bushmaster shit at 9.7 with TOW missiles while the PUMA has nothing

TAM 2C 10.3 → 10.0
Mid-bad shell for 10.3 and 2S25M, Vextra 105, Rad. 90 at 10.0 it dosnt make any sense for a 105mm light tank being 10.3

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What about the 30mm tanks with no missiles and no remote control turrets at 9.x the Puma would be vastly better than them for only being .7 to 1.0 difference also Puma has air tracking which some don’t have

Imo it’s a compression problem Puma should be higher than these and a lot of things near the Puma should be higher up than the Puma imo

they are 18 TT light tanks with autocanons (57-25mm) between 10.3-9.3 , 8 of them are 30mm and are from br range also 10.3-9.3, 4 of them have ONLY a 30mm with apfsds and thats the PUMA 10.3, the ICV (P) 9.7, CM34 at 9.3 and the CV9030FIN also at 9.3, the PUMA is the only 30mm at 10.3 and the other 3 10.3 with autocanons are 40mm AND have anti-tank missiles (exept the ajax), while tanks like the bmp4 sits at 9.7, the IRST in the PUMA dosent make a big diference even with the AHEAD rounds because its way better to can kill an MBT frontaly than being able to kill a heli without much efort also if PUMA goes to 10.0 nothing will change for 9.0 they are way worse things than the PUMA (also in the new update USA is geting a 30mm with AHEAD rounds and maybe IRST in 9.7)

yea if you shoot the turret of the puma is out of battle because all the electronics are there because the vertical and holizontal aiming drive are so close, so pls tell me why the PUMA should be in the same br as the AJAX and the swedish ones and not in 10.0 with the ZBD04A and the italian one that are way better (and i dont mention the BMP-2M thats also at 10.3 and its ages better than the PUMA)

See below

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