Can mods please close this nosense ? the creator always do the same when the topic is ignored and closer to die come with a big stupid suggestion for create controversy (this time is move up all USA heavies cuz my soviet tonks cant abuse enough) and try revive this russian fanboys wet dream.
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nuh uh
isnt 2C already 10.0?
I can kill them with .30cal so…
Last time i met the Wiesel, it ate the 50cal belt with its UFP and forced me to shoot the main cannon so it wont get away
Thats due to the angle, hit them in the side or as you said, just shoot the launcher.
if possible tho, yes.
Will do
who wants to move the begleit/??? its ok and the wiesel too
no the RAD samething is 10.0 the TAM C is10.3 for same reason
So they moved it to 10.3? I mean, it seems fine at 10.3 tho. Two great thermals + DM63s + 35* turret rotation speed + 24hp/t. What`s your claim as for why it should be 10.0?
430 pen thats 100mm more than the TAM in 9.0, while the 2S25M is with 3dm60 at 10.0
Its in the Original post at the top.
Yeah, the 2s25M has better shot, no doubt. But also -4 vertical aim angle and 3.5 degree vertical aim speed.
Plus its huge…
Honestly? I actally think that 2C would be fine 10.0 either, especiall as it at least has lineup there
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only 8 missiles (ammo box exist but it takes time), the missiles are 50/50 to kill spesialy the topattack in russian tanks that samehow only take the mg and yellows the breach, and you can kill it with r=the coax mg of most tanks
no? if it had apfds yes but it never had or planned to have and one shot in the basket and its good as dead
Begleit’s gun actually has a apfsds round for it. They just refused to add it. Gaijin likes where it sits in the german tree, as theres not a ton that could replace it except maybe moving the PUMA down to 9.7.
the gun not the tank the same is for the falcon the falcon never used apds but gaijin added it because the cannons did and now theyremoved it
But they removed it because people were using it as a light tank and gaijin couldn’t balance it. If they gave the begleit it’s apfsds and irst, it could easily sit at 10.3/10.7 and be 100% fine.
but why it never had any of this??
Most of these are fine where they are lol.
Jumbo, Jumbo 76, T1E1, T1E1(90), M6A2E1 = Fine where they are
T14, T26E5, T32E1 = border cases, hard to place at a good BR.
T29, T30 = could do with a 0.3 BR increase.
T58 = I’m not sure, so I won’t comment.
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I would say T29 and T30 are fine where they are, especially post reload nerf on T29.
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