Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

The hypocrisy is insane.
You haven’t had an honest discussion from the get go.

Okay tell what can’t the T29 do? Please, enlighten me. Because it can kill an IS-4 Maus, etc with ease and can bounce almost just as many rounds because it’s volumetric armor is extremely trolly.

Better yet, you think I’m so pro Russia, tell me, what’s so great of the Russian vehicles, at 7.3 / 7.7?
Refer back to this:

Count the nerfs to buffs per nation.

Maybe if you’re fighting the typical Russia/Germany main who aims for the thickest parts of your armor.

No, not really.

The T34 has a longer reload than both the T26E1 and the Tiger 2, which both get APHE btw.

Not really too important.

.50cals cannot take out barrels. Maybe some autocannons, but nothing significant.

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@Normandy_Corsair
@Pangolin_Fan

The T29’s pen, angle, pen and so on are better than a lot of 7.3s, and some 7.7s. (No I’m not going through the whole list). But I took an “OP” tank according to a lot of people the T-10A, and pitted it against the T29, and it was better in most regards.

Despite the area being a “non pen” for the T29, it doesn’t care.

The T29 has a better reverse gear over 7.7s and 3x HMGs.

The “Trolly” armor of the T29:

what’s crazy is the Surbassie will pen a T29 Hull at 2000meters easily, anywhere.
And before you say “oh you got Gaijined”
A IS-4 also shot him, in addition to others.

All over, weak spots, etc. and he lived.

T29 Is more than good at 7.3.

T29,30 will be ok in 7.3 as is is3. bigger ploblem is a tank with only a 30mm (and not even a fast one) being 10.3while all others are 9.7-9.3, move the puma to 10.0 (TAM 2C too)

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What about the 30mm tanks with no missiles and no remote control turrets at 9.x the Puma would be vastly better than them for only being .7 to 1.0 difference also Puma has air tracking which some don’t have

Imo it’s a compression problem Puma should be higher than these and a lot of things near the Puma should be higher up than the Puma imo

they are 18 TT light tanks with autocanons (57-25mm) between 10.3-9.3 , 8 of them are 30mm and are from br range also 10.3-9.3, 4 of them have ONLY a 30mm with apfsds and thats the PUMA 10.3, the ICV (P) 9.7, CM34 at 9.3 and the CV9030FIN also at 9.3, the PUMA is the only 30mm at 10.3 and the other 3 10.3 with autocanons are 40mm AND have anti-tank missiles (exept the ajax), while tanks like the bmp4 sits at 9.7, the IRST in the PUMA dosent make a big diference even with the AHEAD rounds because its way better to can kill an MBT frontaly than being able to kill a heli without much efort also if PUMA goes to 10.0 nothing will change for 9.0 they are way worse things than the PUMA (also in the new update USA is geting a 30mm with AHEAD rounds and maybe IRST in 9.7)

yea if you shoot the turret of the puma is out of battle because all the electronics are there because the vertical and holizontal aiming drive are so close, so pls tell me why the PUMA should be in the same br as the AJAX and the swedish ones and not in 10.0 with the ZBD04A and the italian one that are way better (and i dont mention the BMP-2M thats also at 10.3 and its ages better than the PUMA)

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Or continue to be biased.

Awful argument. Reverse speed and .50 cals are not a valid argument to uptier a vehicle by 0.7br where its armor is paper and its gun is mid at best if not bad. The IS-6 is strictly a better tank besides gun depression and a few other not worth mentioning stats that I’m sure you’ll bring up like angled pen being slightly better.

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Lets just forget the T10-A is stabilized… At 7.7 with APHE and that usually just the stabilizer raises the BR of vehicle by 0.7 to 1.0 of what it would be without it but for russia its just 0.3 apprarently.

T29 has 3 mph faster revere and 30mm more pen that sure makes up for the stabilizer and over all way better armor of T10-A.

And BTW your “proof” about the T10-A and T29 vs tiger is sloppy at best, but propably cherrypicked… With the T10-A you aim for the trackilng directly

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and hit it
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But with T29 you aim next to it and bit lower in all your shots…
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Hitting the tracking from this angle will get any round volumetricked, With T10-A you can pen there too just bit lower as long as you use APCBC round.

And lets compare T29 vs T10-A armor against each other
T10-A vs T29 from 500m
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And just to give T29 a shot from 0m
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And to that point there is IS3 at 7.3, T10-A is basically stabilized IS3… And with this armor profile how would you justify them beeing at the same BR? because of 30mm of extra pen? or 3mph better reverse speed?

And the second one? That is just getting gaijined he was at weird angle i think he might have been in bomb crater or large HE crater that was not rendering for you. his left track was out and bit in the groud… so propably the weird gaijin bug with HE where the tank keeps vibrating for a while then settles… god knows what the server sees at this moment.
That is not T29 that is just stupid gaijin servers/desync.

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The jumbo 75, handheld, what, also including the cobra king which is just a 75 jumbo doesn’t make your point any better

Just checked he is a russian main so probably anything he cant lolpen without even aiming is broken in his mind…

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Are you suggesting a buff to its TNT equivalent?
Because M82 shot currently doesn’t overpressure.

10.3 for some reason despite being worse than the Leo 2K besides slightly better round and thermals.

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That’s why there’s a br difference :)))

T29 should be 7.3 and the IS-6 7.7
Clearly that didn’t skip across your mind.

Do I need to go through the full list of what’s better on the T29? Or will you stop being so willfully biased?

@StuckOnRock

Spoiler
  1. T-10A has a low speed stabilizer, not a full speed. So correct yourself.

  2. Using the Best round on the T-10A, and aiming in the same spot as the T29, it cannot pen the T2 because of the size of the round, it would hit the front plate instead of the side, and would simply non pen.

  3. T-10A isn’t that great nor is the IS-3. Both can get annihilated by many vehicles with one shot, either by crew kill, or thanks to ammo placement, an ammo det. HeatFS is even more potent against them, but they’re reload is so long it’s not to hard to counter an IS tank.

  4. Good luck consistently getting a 122mm to pen a T29 at 500 meters, especially in a game. This is even worse when USA players love to wiggle super hard and be spastic to not die.

  5. Again, do not say “you got gaijined” four people shot that same T29 I did with a Surbassie, there is no excuse. Hands down.

Ok, start by telling me why the T29 belongs at 7.3 and what vehicles at 7.3 are comparable to it that currently exist.

You can’t say the same thing I said to you and act like it makes sense.

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A Russian “main” except I don’t really play Russia anymore, after realizing how badly placed a lot of the tanks are in br.
Not to say I do poorly in them.

But I have 2 friends, one a USA main, and another a Sweden main, and they both played a bunch of the Russian tech tree recently to get up there in research.
They both hate it, why?
The consistent fuel explosions from enemies players poor shots.
The long reloads, for not much reward, the “I have 16 weak points, and 1 strong point” armor schemes that make it rather difficult to play anything that isn’t a T-34-57 or 85, or the later IS tanks.
The lack of gun depression,
And so on.

Btw I’ve been playing way more USA, and Italy over everything else, since you wanted to bring up stats.

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Works 80% as well. Simply slow to 22kph to shoot.

It’s just the 2nd or 3rd best 7.7 heavy tank, that’s all.

Yeah so can T29 by vehicles at a lower battle rating than it.

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So if low speed stabs are so OP, why are so many USA vehicles equipped with them so low in br?

Secondly, 2nd or 3rd best… so who? You?

#34 is very far from 2nd or 3rd best

Lastly, if you’re so confident that lower br’d tanks can annihilate the T29, let me get out my KV-220, and you hop in your T29.
There’s a host of 6.0 tanks that won’t easily pen it.

Also, the T29 is the only 7.0 besides the now removed Tiger 2 105.