I quite like the T34 and T26E1-1 both imo are pretty good at 6.7 T34 could definitely go to 7.0, I still have it when playing the M46 at 7.0
How are any of these besides the T58 considered overpowered to you
Have you played any of them?
yes…
Then you should know.
Especially since you have a 3.0 KDr in the T20, and T29, and something else.
I’m actually a little surprised you don’t do well in the Jumbos
Granted I myself have very old stats for the jumbos when I was a nub
T20 at 6.3 is ok especially that 76mm doesn’t work that well against 7.3+ enemies
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I’ve seen people spam that a ton as of late and be at the top of the leaderboards.
Maybe a slight reload nerf is in order instead of a br change, but afaik most people regard it as a very good tank.
Also, I got the excelsior from the SL crates, that thing is a menace to society
Let’s pretend I’m not good at the game and have no idea what I’m talking about, how are you going to explain to me that these tanks listed are overpowered
yet another case of ppl using stats without knowing the context or nuance behind the stats,
When did I get my T20 stats? When did I get my Jumbo stats? What year was it?
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It is good only because enemies have wyra in their backs
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I’ve played both jumbos and the 75mm is mediocre at 5.7, and the 76 is in no way undertiered at 6.3. The T26E5/T34 also can’t go up unless the Tiger IIs/a few other 6.7s are decompressed and moved up too.
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That’s why in my og list at the top the Tiger IIs and the T26E5/ T34 are moved up.
They’re the most dominant 6.7s
As far as jumbos, I find them rather oppressive, when I’m using it, and when it being used against me.
The barrel is next to impossible to take out.
It has the turret armor of the gods.
It has very good frontal armor, with a very trolly machine gun port.
It has decent mobility.
A roof HMG.
Smoke rounds + APCR.
The jumbo 76 have like a 20% chance (full downtier) of being among the most annoing and oppressive thing of the game this can’t be fine
They certainly aren’t undertiered despite the 76mm being fairly decent if you don’t use it in 7.0/7.3 games.
I agree that they should move up, only if there is decompression. It’ll also allow for things like the T-44, M26, and Tiger II P to not be objectively worse than tanks at the same BR.
You know you have a poor argument when you list APCR as a pro.
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APCR is quite nice.
I killed a few Mauses in my T26E5 the other day. They couldn’t pen me, and I kept Killing their gunners through the front of the turret, and then barreling, tracking, etc.
T26E5 and others that have great armor and APCR are good.
More pen is a pro.
I use APCR on the Jumbo out of necessity. Necessity because the APHE is terrible at the BR it’s at. This goes for both Jumbos, except I just don’t play the 76 Jumbo because its only purpose in life, to have armor, isn’t true anymore at 6.3+. It gets railgunned by everything.
Good for you.
They absolutely could have.
This took you probably 45-60+ seconds to kill a single tank, and you’re trying to say this is reason for uptiering these tanks as it clearly shows they’re overpowered… because they have to nickel and dime the enemy tank to death.
More pen that isnt actually more pen because its only more pen when its shot at flat armor and won’t do any damage either way because its apcr.
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Out of all of those, If you find THAT thing OP then it might just be a problem with you.
Literally the easiest heavy tank for its BR to kill, Turret is covered in paper thin spots, It has ammo is behind the tracks and it has paper thin hull corners, A massive forehead with a large flat plate and not to mention its ridiculously tall, For real just don’t shoot the UFP and you kill it with ease.
Seriously, The optic below the cupola can be penned by a BT-5.
Even the Tiger 2P (or whatever its name is now) isn’t that weak.
Its on par with the IS-2’s where it just has a faster reload (thats still slow) in exchange for the most worthless armor profile of any “heavy” tank.
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IS-2 has one of the slowest reloads in the game bro.
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T1E1 90 should really get the velocity changed for its main round.
It’s odd for one of the earlier instances of a US tank with a 90 mm to be using the supercharged small-cavity variant of M82 that was only standardized around 45’ to my knowledge. It ends up being rather obnoxiously overtuned in-game as a result.
Even then, it still would be 6.0 material. Even if limited to the only the earliest M82 variant, it would still have basically the same pen as 88 mm PzGr 39 while also being able to overpressure.