Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

You forgot to mention it’s slower than an M109 and a full 2.7 higher.

I better comparison is just VIDAR but without LRF or thermals (the main things that make VIDAR OP) at the same BR

It shouldn’t be, the M48 turret is shite ergonomically for the loader. The M60A1 turret is basically perfect.

I mean yeah, about the T-34 but the KV-1E is just painful for 3.0s or any kv1/t34 for 2.7

M4A5 ram 2 US premium. 3.7- 2.7
The rounds make it a rank 1 vic. loses fight vs a stuart. Shells cause minimum damage to BRs bellow. Cant do ANYTHING vs same BR or above.


yeah it is because it does not matter at all.

Yes it is, thats why it got moved to 4.3 so only Panzer 4s meet it

wa. THere are no premium sherman.
there is only Ram and its 57mm cannon is OP AF

Yes the ram. The 3.0 GB version is good. Bought the premium and its making me want to quit the game

OP? If thats the general consensus i give up. Or maybe you can help… and tell me what im doing wrong

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I do believe its not, as i have much love for this cannon as british main

Its the worst by far iv used. shots in side and shots to weak spots dont matter. The only kills Iv got were lucky to hit ammo

Hell no

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It loses vs a stuart.

Hell yes. The 3.0 version is better so needs to be lower

I’ll go through my list again one of these days and mass edit it…

But,

  1. T-44FM does have BR-367, but is slower than the T-34-85 STP which I would argue is a better armored tank because of its angles.
  2. If the KV-220 stays 6.0 it needs a reload buff… it is in no true way better than a panther F other than side armor.
  3. IS-6 is an decent tank, but gets decimated by HEAT because you can’t store the ammo in one place, gaijin puts ammo all over the tank, so in the first penetrating hit you explode.

So, what I will do is remove the IS-6, and remove the br decrease for the kv-220 or make it an or reload buff.

STP is good as is

I can understand the Type 69 going to 8.3 because it has a dart.
The vickers im kinda on the fence about.
And the TO-55 is just a no.

The TO-55 has ammo literally everywhere, almost half the turret traverse of the vickers, worse reverse speed, better reload by 2.5 secs, and lack of smoke grenades.

For slightly better frontal armor, and a flamethrower.

I used it with Churchill 3 chassis, i love it. 4s reload + 130 pen and decent damage for hit is enough

Just give it M86 APHE.
It would have lower muzzle velocity and penetration than as seen in this stat cared when fired from the shorter 6pdr Mk.III, but it would still be a very useful round for consistent damage.
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Turret armour as well***

Hull armour is much better because its crew is more spaced out and you can angle very well (Isn’t that the whole point of the Tiger? Tiger’s perfect angling is a lot worse than KV220’s)

Doesn’t need it…

There are other tanks at 6.0 that are worse than it.
M4/T26 and Centurion Mk.1, for example.

It’s not particularly strong at 6.3 especially considering the T20 exists and behaves quite similarly, and better in other aspects.

Vickers Mk.1 has a 5s reload to compensate. If it only had a standard 6.7s reload then it would be fine at 8.0.

Type 69 too, though its APFSDS sucks and gets no APHE so they’re just about equal (other than the TO-55 not having a LRF).

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In which Panzer 4s can lol pen the KV-1E pretty much anywhere.

While the KV-1E will actually have some trouble against the Panzer if it’s an uparmored one.

Pz.4 should go back to 4.0 as well.

It does no damage unless u aim at ammo or fuel. The crew survives to move / and or shoot back. AP was voted against being fixed as Iv just learned. Current state ram 2 is 2.7 worthy.

French Stuart >

again

German vehicles at those BRs are known for their guns, a little bit of armour, and pretty much nothing else.
I think that’s fair.

If they angle even a little bit, it’s goodbye to them.

Plus the transmission area is very weak too:

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yeah right

Yes, thats why uparmored has higher BR. And no, it isnt THAT much trouble. Tho i firmly believe that only that germans are such bad players Panzer IV stands so low. It actually 4.3-4.7 material

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You shoot crew, kill tank with 2 to 3 shots. Easy peasy.

I got 1 popped by a 2.7 rated tank and couldnt move.

Ammo is that bad its broken. Crazy people voted against it being fixed… means theres something to fix.