Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

Game Discussion Realistic Battle
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Removed:

All T-80U, UM2, UE, UK, UD, BVM (T80U or newer) reload corrected to 6.0 seconds. (Historically accurate, cyclogram data literally even says 6.0 seconds. THIS APPLIES TO ALL MZ LOADER TANKS!)

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Russian MBTs: Firepower and Protection versus NATO counterparts - #219 by aDSD

Added:

T-80UD 10.3 → 10.7

Given its recent fix to its autoloader speed giving its true reload, it is reasonably now 10.7 material.

All type 90 MBTs 11.7 → 12.0

Being the fastest MBT in the game with an excellent 4.0 sec reload, it’s strange that it has sat 0.3 br lower than its competitors. Its armor profile is odd but it can reasonably bounce M829A1 and thanks to its recent buff on armor around the gun mantlet it’s beefier than usual. It can take early game positions quickly and if a couple skilled players crew it, it can result in an instant loss for the opposing team.

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2216

Su-30 new premium needs to be 13.7 being 0.3 BR more and it has Fox 3s is a joke and like the Terminator pure pay to win

2217

This is for ground…

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2219

BMPT, BMPT-72 10.7 → 11.3

This absolute demon of a tank is ruining the entire 10.X bracket right now, Trying to play anything but Russia feels impossible

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2221

GROUND

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2223

@UniqueScorpions-live

Strv m/42 DT 5.0 > 5.7
The reload speed is insanely fast - just 4.0 to 3.5 seconds! Combine that with a 75 mm gun firing APHE rounds capable of 149 mm of penetration and excellent angled performance, and you’ve got a real powerhouse. Sure, it lacks the APDS shells of the Strv 74, but honestly, with this vehicle’s superior mobility and blistering fire rate, it already outclasses the Strv 74. And its turret is about, 30-40% smaller.

The vehicle is highly mobile, maintaining its speed even through turns and reliably reaching its 45 km/h top speed on most terrains. Its armor is sturdy enough to shrug off some autocannon fire, and the massive gun breech that divides the turret absorbs around 60% of incoming damage, often allowing it to survive hits from an 88 mm shell with only minimal crew loss. sometimes just a single crew member, thanks to the breech taking the impact.

Pvkv IV 3.0 > 2.7
This vehicle is abysmal. Its mobility is only slightly better than the Strv m/40L, it struggles to get around the battlefield effectively. The turret is its biggest weakness: cramped with both turret crew members sitting shoulder to shoulder. paper-thin armor, sluggish rotation, and elevation speeds that make even the M10 Gun Carrier look responsive. As for protection, the armor is completely inadequate for its BR, offering little to no resistance against anything you’ll face.

On paper, the gun seems promising — it’s the same cannon found on the Pvkv III, just mounted on a lighter chassis. But even with APDS rounds, this vehicle is a painful matchup against stabilized Shermans and T-34s, both of which will outgun and outmaneuver you with ease.

Ikv 72 1.7 > 2.0 (And switch places with the Sav m/43 (1944) )
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This vehicle is fast, agile, and deadly. Its gun is excellent for its BR — even up to 2.7, and thanks to its APHE rounds, it can one-shot most targets with a clean penetration. The cannon boasts an impressive –20° of gun depression, letting you comfortably use terrain to your advantage.

With its low profile, this tank excels at close-range brawling and flanking, making full use of its quick reload and devastating APHE shells to dispatch nearly any opponent it encounters. Sure, the armor is thin, but given its speed and firepower, it’s a fantastic little machine that more than makes up for it!

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2224

Nah. Its pretty much an open top. 5.0 is perfectly fine. It’s less survivable than the vk 30.01

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2225

I’ve never been over-pressured-? And the survivability is great

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Anytime I’ve the occasion to use HE vs Strv/42 DT, I’m do it (75mm, 76mm or 17pdr) : overpressure 90% of shot.

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2227

Huh- Neat maybe its just one particular spot-? because ive 1v1d a friend and they have used HE on a 76mm Sherman trying to break my tracks and for fun sake at my turret cheek once, and nothing happened and in regular matches ive never been over-pressured except by the 88mm APHE round ofc. To the hull

2228

Never have issue with Centurions mk.1 and mk.2 (funny, HE is good vs PT-76 too)

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2229

Lmao- Okay neat, never happened to me in my whole time playing the Strv m/42 lmao

hmm. Now i wonder can you over-pressure the Pvkv II-? since its crew is divide into two parts-?

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you’re just lucky to not facing some good players. So many time HE shot save me alot of trouble… I hope to see 105/120/165mm Hesh working better than the 155 of the T58

2231

Considering the ol UK loved 🅱️ESH

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Unironically i have used HESH on the Strv 105 and just rangefinded into the distant bushes where i saw an SPAA muzzleflash into the sky and then shot, waited 5 seconds and started driving then

Target destroyed.

And i wheezed so loud i think the neighbors got concerned

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It was a GEPARD so- Fair game lol didnt feel that bad

2234

When i played it a good while back, it was so ass. Slow turret, very low pen…
it’s not op

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The Strv m/42 DT’s current 5.0 BR does not accurately reflect its performance when fully upgraded, particularly in downtiers. While the stock vehicle may feel underwhelming, once spaded it combines a very fast 3.5–4.0 second reload, effective 75 mm APHE (~149 mm penetration with good angled performance), good mobility, and a compact, enclosed turret with a large breech that absorbs spall, giving it higher survivability than is often assumed.

Turret traverse and penetration are adequate for 5.0-5.7 once upgraded, sure low compared to shermans that dominates close quarter brawls in most BR’s, and its internal layout allows it to survive alot of hits As a result, it performs noticeably better than many vehicles it commonly faces at 5.0, especially in downtiers. And i really dont see where the negative opinion comes from.

This vehicle isn’t overly overpowered but its performance is overly performing against 4.0-4.7 vehicles. So, It does suggest that 5.3–5.7 would better align its spaded performance with appropriate opposition.

Comparative Statistics.

Here:

Mobility:
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Firepower:
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Note: M4 sherman APHE is 149mm aswell, the 191mm is the APCR

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5.3 may be better, but I’ll look when I get on later

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