you would win, because you are better than me, now ur turn, boot in a usa team game and see if you can do anything against the su30/34
My Pantsir would die just as it would facing any other CAS.
Su-34, F-15E, Rafale, etc are OP no matter how many times you claim we’re wrong.
i saw you edited it, you know the su-34 is superior when compare to the f-15e or the rafale, because it is the truth
you edited in because it would make ur arguement down in the sewer
and no ur pantsir wont die, because you have the best radar, better range, more missiles, better manuverability, and you can actually see ur missiles
and you have to account in skill, a skill issue pantsir wouldnt count, so is a skill issue adats or ito but the pantsir IS objectively better than any other spaa
CAS vs CAS is skill, spaa vs CAS is skill, but ur spaa is inferior to the CAS then its not skill but imbalance
and when u CAS against a superior spaa
its not skill but imbalance
skill account in this game but the imbalance is very much clear
The Panzer intercepts all my Mavericks and GBUs, it even intercepts the Hellfire. Try to destroy all targets at once, including the Panzer, in an F-15 without maneuvering from respawn.
the kh-38s is faster than brimstone or maverick, its harder and the time window to intercept is much less, i literally intercept 6 maverick in my m247 because they are slow af
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Maybe you usualy play with it, but Pantsir is THE best SPAA in the game, and it’s able to counter KH38MT super easily.
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Let’s not forget how KH38MT goes above you and then proceeds to vaporize you while you’re using a shit SPAA such as the ADATS.
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yeah but LOAL brimstone are OP but gaijin allow this sht in the game combine with Pantsir
there is no ways CAP can gain altitude advantage and the only way to stop these skill less Russian CAS is to spawn kill them
pantsir vs su30/34 is balance
adats vs su30/34 is not
so is for ito, flak, and suffering otomatic
russia vs russia is balance, but when any team face russia you would either have to camp spaa the entire game or you just go on ur way to cap and a kh-38 going at mach jesus to your position
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IN WHAT WORLD does Pantsir have a 25km range to engage Su-34, F-15E, and Rafale?
WHAT WORLD?
You claim Su-34 is so vulnerable, prove it. Prove that Su-34 is bad. You won’t, cause you know we’re right.
I can’t dodge Pantsir missiles BTW, but I don’t need to when I outrange Pantsir by over 10km.
Pantsir’s missile range is a MAXIMUM of 18km at lower to mid altitudes, my guided munitions range is 30km.
30km is higher than 18km.
So prove to all of us here that the Pantsir you defend has a range of even 25km.
So yeah, keep claiming that we’re wrong for calling ADATS, Pantsir, etc trash against Su-34, F-15E, and Rafale…
@Demokrat4
F-15E has 20 glide bombs, Pantsir has 12 missiles, it can’t intercept the Mavericks cause it died to the glide bombs or had to retreat.
@_Ladies_Man_217
Pantsir is trash compared to the CAS it faces.
Unless you’re claiming that the best SPAA players on the planet are all bad… they’re not.
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I also noticed when playing in the ADATS, my radar don’t spot enemies at all, i’m literally looking straight at su-34,su30 launching from 12km and my radar isn’t spotting them at all, and my missiles just disapears after i launch it.
I’m going to say it again, ADATS is ASS.
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well the only way now is to lower NATO CAP with fox 3 like to 460-470 sp so they can fight back since they don’t have effective SPAA so the only SPAA they had is their jet
brother, when did i say that… please quote it
so that mean the su30/34 is op, or you couldnt lock the missiles, and consider the pantsir cant help it then what about adats ito or flak which is worse?
Well finally i can agree with you, because Pantsir only faces AGM65 which suck and Hellfires which also suck.
and the adat/ito/flak/other spaa are way worse than it, its an absolute pain
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So you telling me you would climb 20 km outside of the battle area while your team getting gangbanged from uncountable directions just to deal with single Pantsir yet you are still making yourself vulnerable to any Fox 3. Your winrate shows us how really you care about your games tho.
20 bombs… Ahahahahahaha. Oh my God, stop him.
20 bombs there. And the B-17 has 30.
isnt that how you deal with the bombs? you dont have to intercept them, smoke and run, rip ur team but you have a chance to kill the CAS
SPAA cannot frag CAS, period.
Zero SPAA in War Thunder can deter CAS.
Destroying ordnance is not deterring CAS.
Dying to my 20 glide bombs is not deterring CAS.
MBTs dying to Mavericks, Hammers, and Kh-38s is not deterring CAS.
Yes, everything is trash.
And if they retreat then the F-15E survives and goes to rearm with more glide bombs and Mavericks after gaining 4 - 6 MBT frags.
@Boomer6161
Climbing takes 60 seconds at most.
Win rate is team skill not individual skill.
I capture points and protect allies, and you blame team mates.
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you got it boss
you got it again boss
thats if a pantsir is clueless, clueless spaa kills the team, that doesnt denied how the su30/34 is better cas than f-15e
because f-15e face capable spaa, and su30/34 face incapable spaa
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