fair enough devs gotta take a break too, wish they had just done a small br adjustment when they added them in the first place tho
Still have yet to get more than 3 kills in total after firing over 100 120s from different ranges.
i dont know if thats something you should publicly admit on here
Considering how almost everyone agrees how badly the 120s are underperforming I need to show proof. Check my stats with the Gripen e and you will see how bad it is. Fired 120Cs at range, fired RB-99s up close, they miss over 90% of the time
I would rather play a plane with 6 9Ls at 13.0 over having 7 aim-120s at the moment.
Yeah lol it’s just that eurocanards are still severely undertiered
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Yeah they def need major buff but you can def still get good kill games with plane that only use aim120s.
Anyway, the Gripen E will probably make more sense once new missiles are introduced (meteor, iris-t, aim-120d with hopefully a buff/fix…)
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Let alone if/when BOL gets fixed. 4x BOL gives it an excellent defensive suite normally
With the introduction of IIR as SAMs, the argument for it to be actually fixed has only gotten stronger. If they are added to aircraft… there is absolutely 0 excuse for it anymore
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I mean yeah but there’s a ton of things that have zero excuse to not be fixed and are still broken, again just look at the Harriers
Yeah…
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I have had a 2 kill game and a 1 kill game with the Gripen E, rest are 0 kill games.
You mean the missiles they probably won’t give the E as an excuse to not uptier it?
Lmao
Genuinely possible
Not to be an ass…but if I start watching your server replays, you’re saying this is a 100% Gripen problem and you’re doing everything right?
Update: Good Sir, I have watched “a” replay…this is NOT a Gripen problem or a AIM120 problem, I will leave it at that.
Heck DM me in game and I’ll run my E with ya…well cook em well done ;)
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f16i：hello？
i mean, idk if they are underperforming as i dont know their real world capabilities vs WT but them underperforming does not mean that they are useless. If you fail to get more than 3 kills from 100 launches that more shows that in the most simple words youre incompetent.
When you fire them, what distance are you firing from, what speed are you releasing them from, are you continuing to give them further updates via DL (important!) so that incase of a notch the missile can still use your radar as a backup, which enemies are you firing them at. Etc. etc.
I think ive written here before as well as probably others have too that the 120C5s are trash and generally not worth using. the difference between them is only noticable if you fire them at like 40+ km enemies, with the performance over Rb99 only minimally improving past 20km. They are however completely useless once the match progresses to closer range combat so again, just ignore 120C5s and stick with Rb99s.
if they miss 90% of the time (youd have more kills than 3) then either you fired them with insufficient speed, or at target that was too far/flying defensive, or you didnt give them DL updates, or it was too offbore, or combination of the above.
This entire notion of amraams being bad because “underperforming” is cope.
Fly fast (M1.2+) at mid-high altitude (6-7km) and fire at targets that are flying A) towards you or at an angle towards you B) are within 25km but closer the better. When you fire your missile KEEP THE RADAR ON THEM, either by keeping a solid lock or by having the TWS be on them (by gods i hope you are using TWS).
Always try to have altitude and speed advantage against enemy planes incase you need to evade.
You shouldnt really do BVR in the gripen because while its good and can do it if it has to, theres other better planes to do BVR like typhoons or flankers.
Pick your targets carefully as well, you have NCTR so if you know “oh that theres a rafale/typhoon and they have very good FM, ill wait til i get bit closer with my amraams to chuck the Rbs at them”
If none of that works, idk then maybe playing the gripen is not for you. Go play something else rather than to cry about lowering the gripen E down to 13.7 because you cant hit a target with 7 fox3s while everyone else is telling you that the plane is pretty busted at 14.0 with its FM, CMs, AAMs and radar.
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What else can you do in a Gripen exactly when you can’t get close to enemies? Die and quit the game that is the only option.
I have tried notching, 100% death there. Going low, sorry missile knows where it is. Fire 120Cs from 30kms, nope they miss, fire RB-99s at sub 10kms, nope they go to narnia. Try and get a gun kill, good luck 100 R-77-1s are upon ye. Try and use 9Ms, sorry you are already dead because everyone else’s bvr missiles work. Only option is to quit because playing the Gripen E and getting all modifications without GE is pain. At my current rp rate I would have to play well over 300 matches to get it done.
Again I’ll stay respectful but
if I can play 65 games with 74% wins 24 deaths and 90 kills…with a 7 C5/2 9M load out you can. You need to change how you are playing! (my E has all the Performance mods) but your E had a 7 120 load out in the replay soooo?
Watch this clip and get good at it, this will very much help you!!!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HmG9AsqJ-zw
Again my Squad invite stands…Squad up and get in discord and we will SMOKE EM!!! Up to you though.
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