it plays fine if u play it carefullt, but it can’t compete with new 14.3s although it should be able to, it should carry more meta misiles etc
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what exatly does this mean?
MICAs for everyone!
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so F15C GE 12 mica next update?
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Just watched it. He said it had a tiny drop in flight performance in dogfights thanks to extra weight, a difference so small that you’d only really notice it when fighting something like a Gripen C or F-16A. He then goes on to explain why its FM is still extremely strong and its a better overall plane lol, even if it’s held back by it’s primary weapon.
Frankly, I think it should get all the weapons that it is compatible with, including R-Darter, Derby, and possibly Mica if the snail is feeling generous/someone really digs deep for a source.
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Nice strawman.
Plenty of sources have suggested that Gripen has at least tested them and/or suggested they’re compatible. I’ve yet to find anything that suggests anything remotely similar for the F-15, or really any US jet for any European missile before the F-35 successfully tested the Meteor earlier this year. The US goes out of its way to encourage the people that buy their planes to use their missiles as well.
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thats literally what the source says though
unless you dont know how to read it?
and again, no sources actualy mention it being tested on gripen only that it can, which is the same level of compatibility for mica to f15
6x mica monster f-14d
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Are you under the impression that that’s literally the only source suggesting suggesting compatibility lol? There have been plenty more. Unfortunately they’re mostly 3rd party and therefore not reliable enough for Gaijin’s standards, or primary sources that don’t explicitly spell out that Gripen E can carry MICA specifically. There’s literally nothing suggesting the same for the F-15, unless you’ve magically managed to find some?
do you understand why they would say its compatable despite no integration work having been done or no test firings?
thats right, because they use compatable conector types and data busses
do you know what else uses the same kind of compatable connectors and data busses, oh yeah literally every US plane made for 40 years
so yes, by the same compatibility logic used for gripen f15 and f16 are compatable with mica
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And Americans don’t even need to use that data bus argument, as it was actually studied by matra themselves for integration on f-16/f18.
That’s why my argument for gripen not getting it is that if it gets it, it will open a door to all planes getting stuff that is technically feasible.
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Here’s a press release from MBDA, who make the missiles:
They mention the ASRAAM, MICA, and Meteor missiles, and then list planes they’re integrated on, including “Eurofighter Typhoon, Rafale, Gripen and F-35, as well as new international platforms such as KF-21.”
I don’t see the F-15 or any other American jet besides the JSF being mentioned. The Gripen is vastly more likely to have support for MICA’s integrated. It isn’t just the shared buses, its literally everything else suggesting real, non-theoretical compatibility as well.
maybe work on that reading comprehension a bit
that is not listing planes with these integrated, that is listing what they see as Europe’s “main combat air platforms”
and also if you paid attention you might know that none of these missiles are currently integrated on F35 yet, so this is clearly not a list of integrated platforms
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Asraam is integrated on f-35. Just externally and not internally. British ones use asraam
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forgot about that, but doesnt change the fact that the list isnt stating platforms that the missiles are integrated on
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Yeah I was just nitpicking lol, I agree with you generally
nah its good to know
I should remember that next time certain people around here mention F35 missile integrations
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“Reading comprehension” then misreads the statement lol. Without context, “it” could be referring to Europe’s main platforms broadly, but given the use of “they” prior, referring to the missiles listed, and then the statement “its main combat air platforms” heavily implies that its referring to the platforms the missiles is compatible with.
Your info is also out of date, since integration of the meteor missile is currently being done with the F-35, hence why its listed.
There’s plenty more if you want to look for yourself.
Its also likely why the report was rejected, because the F-35 doesn’t carry the MICA and there seems to be no intention to integrate them. So, the same could be said for the Gripen and MICA. Hence the need by Gaijin for the source to specifically state the Gripen could use the MICA, which is fair.
Which is before the Gripen C entered service in 2002 with the Swedish airforce. The JAS39A only entered service in 1996 (which should have RB-99’s). The JAS39C has been seen with the MICA-EM and IR integrated to its systems.
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no it doesnt
like at all
there is like no way to get that out of that statement
especialy given the colon used, it is very clearly a list of what they see as Europe’s main combat air platforms
yes it is in progress
but not integrated yet