Gripen E is insanely underwhelming

The only scandal was it came in over-performing significantly.

There’s a document out there that claims the Gripen is 40% better than the Viggen in sustained turn rate [It’s 41% in-game at 50% fuel currently].
Gripen was also added before the Viggen nerfs, so the over-performing Viggen airframe likely caused the over-performing Gripen airframe.

Basically what you are saying is the grippen with darter is still.best option.

Arr well. No grind needed.
J10C dead as not done correctly.
Grippen dead as no better than previous
New flamker - same as old, didnt need another 2.5 million silver sink
New EF the same as flanker

So that leaves DOA F18. I actually was hyped for this update, il learn my lesson…

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7 AMRAAM vs 4?
Much more loaded CAS loadout?
AESA radar?

Not the same. Irbis-E gives Su-30SM2 eyes in the back of its head (or to be more technical/specific, wing tips) and the engine gives it more speed; you can literally have missiles in the air early game like everyone else and this is rare for USSR players but now you also are more likely to rip your wings due to overspeed, so fun times comrade. Also, if/when you previously use/d AOA button in normal Su-30SM and didn’t recover and immediately ate dirt, you can do the same move in the SM2 and you won’t eat dirt (well, depending on your altitude) and can actually complete post stall manoeuvres.

Yeah you didn’t suffer for months with the Captor-M at all to be saying this lol. Also, with this EF Gaijin can freely add whatever they like to it. It’s quite literally the end of 4th gen for most nations (except maybe Britain… Su-30MKI when Gaijin?) with it before the F-35A/B is added

It’s a (Super) Hornet lmfao, what were you expecting exactly?

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My experience with the suposed better radar isnt good.
Unlocked the raf like a month ago. A few days the radar was great, since then its been different levels of broken.

Im not saying the EF doesnt need a new radar, just we dont need 2 EFs both 14.3… its just snail greed.

The grippen- 4 darters or more spamrams … dunno man its a close choice.

Should all planes that are technically compatible with micas receive micas? Or all planes that are technically compatible with python, derby, r73, sidewinder, etc receive them? Why should gripen be allowed to have free reign over any weapon the playerbase wants

just got accepted

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Yes. Different armament has its different uses as explained above. Give planes what they are capable of and players can choose what to carry according to the role they want to play. In the ground armament, we already see this. There is laser, ir, tv and gnss guided different types of weaponry and you can mix and match according to what you plan doing. Why is it unthinkable to give capable missiles to each plane so the player decides what to arm their plane according to how they want to play?

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Because then we would get planes in nations carrying a whole bunch of munitions that they would never carry irl. Just look at f-16s, su-30mki, mirages, f-15, etc and all the weapons those planes could carry. If you give those planes and their variants all of their “theoretical loadout”, you’re going to get Russian su-30sms with 10x micas, or American f-16s with magic 2s, or French mirages with r73s, which absolutely makes 0 sense.

Meenwhile china gets pl12s and r77s. For a price, no.surprise

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We are not talking about theoretical, at least i was not. Gripen E in real life has a capability of carrying Micas. It was here someone pointed out that Gripen C was reported to shoot Micas in a training session. It is in real life, not theoretical. We are not starting to throw every single munition to each and every plane. I have never said anything like that.

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The gripen c is a completely different plane compared to the gripen e in terms of avionics.
Also where have you seen that gripen test fired micas?

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Again, we are not talking about avionics, we are talking about weaponry.

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Yeah, that falls under equipment though, because mostly all top tier planes use BOL, like the AIM-9M’s.

Okay, can you find me a document that says that gripen was testing micas?
I don’t see it in this original presentation about the mica from ~96.

Actually nvm, mica can technically be integrated with any plane with the MIL 1553 bus that the gripen has.

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Well you are quicker than me. I couldn’t find official sources, only claims from unofficial sources but it seems that it is capable of it.

Edit: thx for this btw.

Griphen E has 16 F&F bombs + 6 Brimstones…
imagine the outcry if Russia had the same loadout

we are talking bout air to air here not ground, its litteraly tagged AIR REALISTIC BATTLES

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Maybe for CAS it might be worth then…

For airRB its straight up wack. Grippen with darters still the best. Better FM and missiles and the small fact you never face france.

Give it a minute, we’ll have our flare&chaff dispensing Kh-101 soon /s

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