Can you remember the contents of Stop Removing Snipe Spots? They were so gaijin delete spots and block roads and not make large maps AND they won’t :D
And avg alvis debating. If you wanna not follow a discussion & change meanings you can just stop posting. Everyone sees designed routes and many branches, though all ends up face-to-face XD
Then arcade should be the gamemode just for you :)
This is one thing I don’t understand. If you’re here to play 100m 3 lane slop then shouldn’t arcade be living up to its name. You clearly don’t want to play realistic tank battles. You want WoT with WT mechanics. There exists a whole gamemode separate to please these kinds of individuals but Gaijin seems persistent on keeping “realistic” arcade 2.0
@Creastroy
Typical of your posts to demean people that like larger maps.
Roads were unblocked on Sweden, not blocked. Flanking routes were opened, not closed.
But yeah, keep posting misinformation and demeaning people that like large maps.
Glad to see a post for larger maps allowed through the harsh judgement of moderators. Unfortunately a look at Attica shows we will continue the CoD/ Moba style 3 lanes directly into each other trend.
Gaijin challenge: not make maps constantly smaller and as laney as possible
Difficulty: Impossible
Yes, we need bigger more dynamic maps. The trend the last couple years of cutting down maps routes to turn them into single lane brawl nonsense is so painful - especially when they outright refuse to increase the limit of map ban’s your allowed despite adding more maps & layers like this all the time. If i wanted to constantly play shipment style maps i’d go & boot up cod4 again. Need bigger maps with maybe some old breakthrough spawn point dynamics, or better yet just do that but in a mixed RB EC with dynamic breakthrough style spawn points for ground vehicles around the ground battle locations when they pop up and whatnot.
Who is “we”? the 300 people who voted in this thread, or gaijin literally telling you that more players prefer smaller maps. This whole hivemind consensus that you are in the majority is not accurate. Most of these “arguments” boil down to the people who say them not understanding how to play the game and wanting the game to change to suit their preferred gameplay.
Unfortunately, there are just to many terrible maps to ban. I personally would love more map bans so I can remove as many large open trash maps as humanly possible.
Lmao there is not much point in trying to entertain conversion with people who are obviously not open to have genuine & fruitful discussion on something. Your stance was pretty clear already just from having scroll through the topic hence the reply - but im glad we can both at least agree more map bans are needed
Top tier is designed for low level premium players, They dont want to learn map knowledge they dont want terrain to impact whatever particular tank they have bought. To ease that they make small maps and we have fast frantic style gameplay. The core issue with this is it largely removes the 1000s of hours of skill to progress from the bottom brs to the top bracket.
Recent games show that high tier ground battles. Light tanks/IFVs, cap maybe get an assist or kill spawn a fully loaded CAS aircraft farm more players that cannot counter them and leave.
The latest high tier premiums reflect that, Striker, Type 16, VILKAS, BMD4M and HSTVL (type)
As a British main it’s better for the team if I spawn a Fox/Warrior or CVRT cap get a few assists my fully loaded Gripen is far more impactful than the underperforming CR2s
There is no genuine or fruitful discussions here, all I see is mega cope from players who do not want to adapt and or want the game to be what they want. These threads can be summarized in four words. Selfish, dishonest and skill issue.
Literally nowhere has anyone here or in similar threads asking for larger stuff said anything even remotely close to wanting to force other players into a particular playstyle. Players just want more variety and options and that’s entirely justified, everyone should be more then welcome to cater the matchmaker to their preferences with the map ban system. If you hate with a passion large maps, i support 100% your ability to ban the crap out of every single one you can - i know ill be doing the opposite banning every small map i can, we can both have a fun grb experience and dont have to enjoy the same things. But attacking people just cause they dont like what you like is infantile behaviour.
I always wondered how on earth the snail apparently found out that people enjoy small maps more? cause more people play them? cause more people dont respawn or leave on big maps? if thats what you have to do to affect the statistics then as someone who enjoys big maps more (aka volo, maybe big maginot or red desert) then you would have to leave and not play at least 80% of maps? brother i would spend 95% of my time qeueing loading and leaving matches even in sim just to play big maps and affect the “muh statistics” so thats not applicable and id still rather just play.
Ill just never understand why people show up in threads where people suggest ideas for different ground modes (where ur not stuck on 2km² maps for all cas to see from spawn easily at one glance) just to go: this is shit, ill just leave all of those, this is not what the game is?
Thats no problem, you can like what you want but why does some people preferring the small maps in the matchmaker make ideas for another gamemode completely irrelevant? put in the options "I prefer big maps/ground rb ec and i prefer small esports maps as is and thats no problem at all? then (provided it works better then map bans) you wont have to play the style you dont like and can let people that enjoy something else more do their thing? theres easily enough players in this game for both ways?
hell add it as ground rb ec event similar to sim and basta.
i for one generally enjoy stuff like volokolamsk, red desert, the massive sim maps much more (at least in higher br’s), they are in the game and iplay a couple of hours daily in almost all brs. i had red desert maybe twice in the last 2 months.
Would i still play the smaller maps? sure. but its about variety so why not give people a choice?
“- -not understanding how to play the game and wanting the game to change to suit their preferred gameplay.”
Projection much? This goes both ways. People engaging on this forum represent those that care about the game, going out of their way to spend time making suggestions. What are you doing? Your post has no insight to why you’re against other than something about how those other people are trash. Can I ask why do you prefer the small maps? Is it because of the quick action? Go play arcade. War thunder was made with immersive tank battles in mind, thats why damage models exist. Or maybe you’re one of those who think that adding realism to the mode ‘realistic’ will halt your grind. Are you here to play for the grind or to have fun? That’s what the current map rotation feels that it’s catering to. The grind, and to people who want to play something that’s not realistic tank battles. I’d really be interested what this majority consists of. Definitely not people who seem to actually care if you’re any example. And those who just want arcade-y battles. Again. The option is right there. Maybe I’m missing something like the gamemode was deleted overnight?
I know I’m probably wasting my time engaging with you since you don’t seem to have any actual interest in fruitful discussion but just to drive my point forward about the current model being terrible.
i also think “wanting the game to change” is a completely wrong interpretation of this thread. how is a suggestion for adding another gamemode or a variety in ground rb like ground rb-small/and ground rb/ec wanting the game to change?
the current map rotation of ground rb could stay exactly what it is but people would have one more option. this suggestion would then in no way replace or change the current gamemodes available?
im struggling to see why that gets people upset but maybe that’s something that just happens in forums or social media that i dont engage with besides my handful of posts in this forum because i care about this game?
“Arcade rewards are too low/I don’t want aiming cross” (thus stops playing the game mode literally made to cater to their playstyle of tank counter strike).
They go to realistic
“Waaaah I need to drive for a few minutes before action, this sucks!”
Same observation in ARB.
People complaining they need to climb, people complaining there’s 1-2 minutes before action, people complaining their guns need landing to reload, people complaining that their planes can go down from critical damage to flight control surfaces rather than keep flying like UFOs. In other words, begging for ARB to turn into air arcade except better rewards. Not as prevalent on forums, but read thru reddit threads a few times and it’s there.
(It also seems they’re winning. We’ve got some AB maps in ARB, and there’s games you take off at ~24:15 and have made contact with the enemy at 22:45 (Mozdok). Super fun in a strict BnZ plane that hates turning or climbing I tell you)