You’re trying to sound smart, whilst you’re still contradicting your point on historical loadouts, when most of the planes, and now the Typhoon and the Rafale do not have Historical loadouts.
Oh how ironic…
Hi, Let’s try to keep it on topic and keep personal attacks out of threads. Take them to PM’s or just stop it in general. Thanks :)
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Do you need missiles as bad as the AIM-9? In War Thunder, this is one of the worst missiles in the game. And Gaijin still hasn’t given the US and other countries the AIM-9X.
That might be because 9X is astronomically superior to any IR missile in the game right now - and would open the door for things like ASRAAM, IRIS-T, Python-5 etc etc being added, which would completely ruin the game.
Last thing Warthunder needs, in it’s 16v16 hellscape MM, is 100+ unflarable, undodgeable, unavoidable missiles in the air at any given moment. Even if by some miracle you do manage to spoof these things with flares, they have target re-acquisition to just turn right back towards you on a dime and try again. It’d be horrific gameplay.
But back to this topic, Anyone played much of the Mig29A’s now that top tier is 14.0? Hopefully being outside of the top BR bracket now, I imagine their gameplay should be noticeably more enjoyable, with more frequent downtiers? (In theory at least).
As cool as it’d be to get R-73 on them, Idk if that’s worth going up to 13.0 like the Mig29G, and being plunged straight back into top tier MM after its only now finally escaped.
again, new stuff that isn’t in the game yet. What i’m suggesting is historical loadouts WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF WHAT’S ALREADY IN THE GAME. If you actually read the conversation you’d realize that.
It should lose the R-27ER so it doesn’t have to go up in BR.
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The MM seems slightly better than before, and downtiers are reasonably common.
Maybe if R-27ER was removed, then they could stay at 12.7.
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Idk, that’s iffy.
Think you’d be creating a 12.85 and could go either way.
Worse kit than MiG29G, but better kit than other 12.7’s.
Well no, because then people would just take 6 R-73s and would have 6 free kills in a downtier. It would still go up to 13.0 easily, and then you’ve just lost the only other 12.7 that Russia has other than the sub-par Yak-141
I noticed that as soon as things concern the United States, they immediately remember about balance and about the game, but how to give Russia a Su-34 that simply exterminates all life on earth with missiles that were only put into service yesterday, then this is welcome. By the way, Rafal was given new Mikas which are similar in parameters to the AIM-9X.
literally no they are not bruh
Yes, there is a video where Mika’s rocket makes a 180-degree turn. In general, the United States currently does not have normal missiles other than the AIM-120B, and only one aircraft has them.
The bison and MF1 along with the M2K already have magics at same or lower BR, and they are just fine.
M2K in particular has better FOX1s, comparable FM, and IRCCM fox2s at 12.7 and is not an oppressive force at all. There is precedent for a plane with IRCCM missiles at that BR being completely fine.
Having TVC doesn’t make a missile the same as an AIM-9X.
this is incredibly uncommon in an actual game
and the MICA has much more range and worse pull than the AIM-9X, the AIM-9X is also smokeless and does not give a radar warning, do you seriously think that a missile that pulls hard = AIM-9X?
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That is possibly the worst excuse I’ve ever heard for putting R-73s on a Mig-29…
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The Mirage F-1 and Mig-21 has WAY worse flight performance than the Mig-29, along with the fact that the mirage doesn’t even get a HMD…
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They are limited to only TWO of those missiles, so they need to choose their targets wisely, whereas the Mig-29 would get 6, the comparison between these aircraft and the fulcrum Isn’t remotely close…
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If a compromise is needed give the MiG 29A access to R-73’s but only allow it take a maximum of four missiles. That way if we want to bring six missiles we’ll need to equip some R-60’s. If we need some extra reassurance delete the R-27E’s. That should be enough to keep the MiG 29A at 12.7.
What should have been done from the start
All they need to do is replace R-60m with R-73 and remove R-27ER fully.
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MiG-29 never used R-27ER so I don’t even know why it was added.