again, new stuff that isn’t in the game yet. What i’m suggesting is historical loadouts WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF WHAT’S ALREADY IN THE GAME. If you actually read the conversation you’d realize that.
It should lose the R-27ER so it doesn’t have to go up in BR.
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The MM seems slightly better than before, and downtiers are reasonably common.
Maybe if R-27ER was removed, then they could stay at 12.7.
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Idk, that’s iffy.
Think you’d be creating a 12.85 and could go either way.
Worse kit than MiG29G, but better kit than other 12.7’s.
Well no, because then people would just take 6 R-73s and would have 6 free kills in a downtier. It would still go up to 13.0 easily, and then you’ve just lost the only other 12.7 that Russia has other than the sub-par Yak-141
I noticed that as soon as things concern the United States, they immediately remember about balance and about the game, but how to give Russia a Su-34 that simply exterminates all life on earth with missiles that were only put into service yesterday, then this is welcome. By the way, Rafal was given new Mikas which are similar in parameters to the AIM-9X.
literally no they are not bruh
Yes, there is a video where Mika’s rocket makes a 180-degree turn. In general, the United States currently does not have normal missiles other than the AIM-120B, and only one aircraft has them.
The bison and MF1 along with the M2K already have magics at same or lower BR, and they are just fine.
M2K in particular has better FOX1s, comparable FM, and IRCCM fox2s at 12.7 and is not an oppressive force at all. There is precedent for a plane with IRCCM missiles at that BR being completely fine.
Having TVC doesn’t make a missile the same as an AIM-9X.
this is incredibly uncommon in an actual game
and the MICA has much more range and worse pull than the AIM-9X, the AIM-9X is also smokeless and does not give a radar warning, do you seriously think that a missile that pulls hard = AIM-9X?
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That is possibly the worst excuse I’ve ever heard for putting R-73s on a Mig-29…
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The Mirage F-1 and Mig-21 has WAY worse flight performance than the Mig-29, along with the fact that the mirage doesn’t even get a HMD…
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They are limited to only TWO of those missiles, so they need to choose their targets wisely, whereas the Mig-29 would get 6, the comparison between these aircraft and the fulcrum Isn’t remotely close…
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If a compromise is needed give the MiG 29A access to R-73’s but only allow it take a maximum of four missiles. That way if we want to bring six missiles we’ll need to equip some R-60’s. If we need some extra reassurance delete the R-27E’s. That should be enough to keep the MiG 29A at 12.7.
What should have been done from the start
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All they need to do is replace R-60m with R-73 and remove R-27ER fully.
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MiG-29 never used R-27ER so I don’t even know why it was added.
You realise that you would be creating another F-14 situation right? In a downtier all it will see is F-4S, Mig-23s and Tornados, which won’t be able to do anything useful (No, Aim-7Fs will not help because everyone knows how to dodge them easily…) against a Mig-29 armed with 6 R-73s and a HMD. (Unless like 5 of them ganged up on it, which would rarely happen anyways.) and in an uptier it would get demolished by anything that has a BVR missile better than a sparrow, or subsequent aircraft that have much better flight models and IRCCM missiles of their own. In this instance you would only make the BR compression problem so much worse.
you can flare a r73 just fine, if you know how. these same players are already dying to r27er most likely anyway
?? how?
no? I’ve probably flown the 29 more than you, it would be fine
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You’re kidding right? Most aircraft at the 12.0 - 12.3 BR range have between 60 - 90 countermeasures. Having to dump half of that just to flare off ONE R-73 isn’t exactly feasible is it?
What do you mean how? If you were to go against a J8F at the end of a match who decides he wants to stay at 30,000 feet all game and you’re low on tickets, what are you going to do about it?
If your argument is literally “No”, then you might as well not even reply, since it doesn’t even bring anything valuable to the table.
That’s enough…? I get away with 60CM at top tier even in the MiG29
never necessary
Nobody is doing this? Even so you can still just notch his missiles and have him merge with you