@Sergeantpwn
What IRL militaries used is irrelevant; All that matters is the manufacturer. You are not a Soviet pilot, you are you.
Demeaning others for knowing about military vehicle history is obviously provocative.
Next you’ll demean Military Aviation History on YouTube.
Vehicle history =/= air force history. Air force history =/= vehicle history.
The 104+ confirmed frags of F-15 is not F-15 history, that’s air force history.
The F-15 being capable of using AIM-9Ls is F-15 history, not air force history.
History is not all-encompassing, and you’d know that if your posts weren’t busy provoking others with insults.
It’s funny how your posts call everyone wanting Mig-29 9.12 and 9.13 to be at competitive BRs where their airframe can be used more often “malicious”.
“Opposing the nerfing of older Mig-29s is malicious bait! They should be copy-paste of Mig-29G and Mig-29 9.13S.” Type nonsense.
I made no argument of balance.
But yeah, keep trying to nerf Mig-29 and claim history is lying to you.
It’d literally be identical, they’d be copy-paste ordnance.
I’m sick of people trying to nerf Mig-29 9.12 and 9.13 and create 5+ copy-paste Mig-29s at 13.x instead of unique Mig-29s.
Mig-29G is unique right now.
Mig-29 9.13S would be unique, otherwise it’d be copy-paste ordnance.
R-27 doesn’t matter, and I found no source on R-77.
The point is there is Mig-29G for him to play now, there’s Mig-29SMT that’s under-BR’d due to BR compression he can play.
And there are other mid-life Mig-29s to add that only have R-73 and SARH support to come.
I love it when people try to use this argument, because people would be crying their eyes out if the F-15C, F-16C, Tornado F.3s, Gripens and the coming Eurofighter got their actual historical loadouts…
I assume what you’re talking about is the AIM120C-5. The reason why the F-15C doesnt have that is because it’s not a step the game has taken yet. The R-73 is in the game, and actually already exists in a fighter at a lower BR than the MIG-29 9-13. Meanwhile the AIM-120C-5, while honestly probably not being a huge step forward in capability, is still a new advancement in technology which the game has not implemented yet.
Furthermore, the MSIP II program for the F-15 was implemented around the same time as the first variants of the AMRAAM reached IOC, so the F-15’s loadouts are actually perfectly historical for a 1990s F-15 (which the C MSIP II is meant to be), the same way the MIG-29 9-13’s should be, a mid-1980s MIG-29 to contrast with the 1990s era R-27ER equipped MIG-29s. The R-73 fits into that 1980s loadout along with the removal of the R-27ER from the aircraft which would only the 1980s era R-27R.
Went back to the Hungarian MiG-29 to start warming up for the event, but the state of 12.7 and the MiG-29 at this br is absolutely tragical. Every game, you have F-15s and even F-15Es, because 99% of the matches are uptiers. While you have 2 mid radar missiles(compared to top-tier aim-120 spam), and R-60Ms that are the worst IR missiles of its category.
To deny the R-73 for this jet that practically is top tier, is ridiculous. Move it up to 13.0 for all I care, because the situation will only improve for it with the R-73s. Right now its useless considering what it fights against. Which is unfortunate because its a pretty enjoyable jet to fly.
Exactly same goes for other 12.7… F-16A for example gets only 9Ls… is it better than 60M, sure, it still eats first flare it sees and it lacks any sort of BVR capability. Atleast with ER if you get below spamraam F15, you can smack him. ADF aint much better, sparrow is trash compared to ER and no helmet for radar slaving. Tomcat A (not iriaf, that thing should sit at 13.3 just because of fakour) gets sluggish 54As, 7Fs on HPRF only radar and freaking 9H, not even all aspect heater. On top of 60 normal cms.
There is probably ONLY iriaf tomcat that doesnt suffer at 12.7. It should change with 14.0 next patch as 13.0-13.7 will be sucked into 14.0.
it’s funny, because you still haven’t made a good point on how the rest of the aircraft I mentioned would break the game at their current modifications if they had their ‘historical’ missiles that you both seem to larp so much about.
You’re trying to sound smart, whilst you’re still contradicting your point on historical loadouts, when most of the planes, and now the Typhoon and the Rafale do not have Historical loadouts.
Do you need missiles as bad as the AIM-9? In War Thunder, this is one of the worst missiles in the game. And Gaijin still hasn’t given the US and other countries the AIM-9X.
That might be because 9X is astronomically superior to any IR missile in the game right now - and would open the door for things like ASRAAM, IRIS-T, Python-5 etc etc being added, which would completely ruin the game.
Last thing Warthunder needs, in it’s 16v16 hellscape MM, is 100+ unflarable, undodgeable, unavoidable missiles in the air at any given moment. Even if by some miracle you do manage to spoof these things with flares, they have target re-acquisition to just turn right back towards you on a dime and try again. It’d be horrific gameplay.
But back to this topic, Anyone played much of the Mig29A’s now that top tier is 14.0? Hopefully being outside of the top BR bracket now, I imagine their gameplay should be noticeably more enjoyable, with more frequent downtiers? (In theory at least).
As cool as it’d be to get R-73 on them, Idk if that’s worth going up to 13.0 like the Mig29G, and being plunged straight back into top tier MM after its only now finally escaped.