Give the R-73 to the MiG-29A

You realise that you would be creating another F-14 situation right? In a downtier all it will see is F-4S, Mig-23s and Tornados, which won’t be able to do anything useful (No, Aim-7Fs will not help because everyone knows how to dodge them easily…) against a Mig-29 armed with 6 R-73s and a HMD. (Unless like 5 of them ganged up on it, which would rarely happen anyways.) and in an uptier it would get demolished by anything that has a BVR missile better than a sparrow, or subsequent aircraft that have much better flight models and IRCCM missiles of their own. In this instance you would only make the BR compression problem so much worse.

you can flare a r73 just fine, if you know how. these same players are already dying to r27er most likely anyway

?? how?

no? I’ve probably flown the 29 more than you, it would be fine

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You’re kidding right? Most aircraft at the 12.0 - 12.3 BR range have between 60 - 90 countermeasures. Having to dump half of that just to flare off ONE R-73 isn’t exactly feasible is it?

What do you mean how? If you were to go against a J8F at the end of a match who decides he wants to stay at 30,000 feet all game and you’re low on tickets, what are you going to do about it?

If your argument is literally “No”, then you might as well not even reply, since it doesn’t even bring anything valuable to the table.

That’s enough…? I get away with 60CM at top tier even in the MiG29

never necessary

Nobody is doing this? Even so you can still just notch his missiles and have him merge with you

So let me get this straight, you think that a Mig-29 fitted with a HMD and R-73s going against an F-4S is close to a fair match up?

no? I also dont think the f4s facing 11.0s is fair. Thing is, this game is compressed. Ask for decompression. In the meantime I don’t see a problem with exchanging the R27ERs for R73s since that is what the jet irl was built to use from the get go… its like not giving the phoenix to the f14. Same exact thing.

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Exactly, ask for decompression, instead of making the situation worse by putting R-73s on a 12.7 Mig-29

I am the biggest advocate for decompression on this forum, perhaps in this game. I am also going to ask for R-73s on the 29 as that makes sense both logically and from a game stand point…

You can’t advocate for both when you’re harping that the Mig-29 should stay at 12.7 with 6 IRCCM missiles in the current state of top tier compression, which is why I said you’re creating another F-14 situation…

Sure can, regardless of what you think.

No… What I said was is that decompression should happen, but if not the 29 still fits at 12.7 with r73s…it is not 13.0 worthy and it really isnt an issue to have these missiles.

The Mig-29G does fine at 13.0, if it’s a full uptier it would get slammed, at its own BR and below it slaps people around.

Not if it’s contradicting each other

Not really, the Su-27 is just mid/average at the BR and its essentially a purely better MiG-29G. I do fine in these jets but can recognize the MiG-29G is on the lesser end of 13.0 jets along with stuff like the 9M only planes

It’s not contradicting to have both an ideal circumstance in mind and also a “realist” idea.

Then explain how I have a nearly 2.0 KDR in the Mig-29G, it’s completely fine

I don’t care how you do in it. I’ve flown almost every jet at the BR.

How people do in it is exactly the thing that Gaijin takes when addressing Battle Ratings. If a 13.0 Mig-29 with R-73s is already doing fine, do you seriously think Gaijin will keep the 9.12a with R-73s at 12.7?

  1. I wasn’t talking about battle ratings and how gaijin decides them. I was telling you what BR it should be considering the current BR compression and how effective it would end up being.

  2. Even if I was, you being one singular person does not define a vehicle. I am much more confident in my educated assessment based on both playing it but also almost every other vehicle that you could call its peers…the only exception to this being the J-8F and the Mirage 4K essentially

Not having 27ER? Hello?

It’s still a Battle Rating, funnily enough it’s the most important part of a plane’s performance in-game and the Devs are the one’s who decides based on the average statistics that this plane has on every player (shocking, I know.) I really couldn’t care less what your opinion is on the current matter, since Gaijin is the one that decides the battle-ratings, and I’m using THEIR logic on why it wouldn’t stay at 12.7. Since like it or not, players like you or me don’t decide what Battle Rating a plane has.

Did it ever occur to you that 90% of my kills were with R-73s or R27T/ETs?