Give me your vehicles you think are unbalanced and tell me why they should be upgraded

I will list my vehicles I think should be at a better or worse br.

MiG 23ml 11.7 >11.3

IS-6 7.7 > 7.3

Jadpanther IV 4.7 > 5.3-5.7

Maus 8.0 > 7.7-7.3

L3/CC 1.3 > 12.0 (to buffed, needs to be nerfed now!)

KV-1b 4.0 > 4.7

T-34 (1941) 4.0 > 3.3-3.7

KV-1(Zis-5) 4.7 > 4.3-4.0

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Why does the Maus have to go down in BR? Its extremely powerful at 8.0 and it would kerbstomp more at 7.3…

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I think it should go down because although it is extremely good, it’s still facing anti tank missiles as an WW2 vehicle and still has a chance to get uptiered to a rank totally unfit for it.

For RB

It’s great at 11.7, but it suffers in uptiers like everything else. It has a higher chance of going up than going down.

The jagdpanzer IV is 4.3 in RB, but 4.7 or maybe 5.0 is a possibility. Any higher will just make it bad.

Are you talking about arcade?

7.7 in RB, and it’s balanced there.

These are both excellent tanks and they don’t need to go down at all

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I totally agree with you, but the mig-23ml radar absolutely sucks, the kv-1(zis-5) is constantly facing tiger h1, and yes I am talking about arcade on the jadpanther IV

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Only vehicle I’ve played lately that I really thought could do with a change is KF-41. It’s at 11.0 purely, wholly and entirely because of spikes, but you only get four of them and they’re complete garbage. 9/10 times they will do little damage if they even hit at all. Most of our maps are CQB where you straight up can’t even use them because of the fixed upwards launch angle.

Has wayyyyy less surviveability than the other Spike & APS IFV’s at 11.0 like Puma and Namer. Largely due to its crewed turret meaning it’s the only one of these three who can be crew wiped whilst hull down. Unlike the other two has no protection against auto cannons either.

Its APS does literally nothing too, in fact, it’s worse than useless because it actually sets you on fire every time it’s activated, because of the fuel tanks right behind the APS panels.

Really sad vehicle. Should be dropped to 10.7.

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MiG-21 Bison being 12.3 is just laughable. Zero sense…

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Air Sim:

Saggitario 2 from 8.0 to 8.3

It should not be lower than a Mig15 given it’s a similar design. At 7.7 we have hortens, at 8.0 we have banshees and meteors and me262.

8.0 saggitario 2 vs 8.3 mig 15



It turns as well as a 8.3 plane and accelerates better than a 8.3 plane AND has about the same never-exceed speed as a 8.3 plane.

Mirage 2000C-S4/5 is at 12.3 and arguably undertiered, so the Bison is fine there.

No its not… I talked about Bison and not Mirage. Now either give your opinion or please dont @ me or anything I dont care what you have to say. Have a nice one

Also I blocked you so dont even bother…

The bison is better than every 12.0 so I compared it to a 12.3. That’s how balancing works, if you get pissy when people confront your opinions maybe the forums aren’t for you.

Blocking me because I have a different opinion is wild. Enjoy your echo chamber.

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Do you think it’s overtiered at 12.3?

Are 2 R-73s and 2 R-27Rs not good at 12.3?

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Yeah I think it is… You talk about R-73 and R-27R like they are guarantee kill or something…
So why I say this:

  • gets to breaking point of wings like a minute after take of (same issue with Rafale) and then its just take away speed give it back, just BS
  • radar is so bugged its not even funny catching all the flares, chaffs and invisibe stuff, while struggling to lock on enemy plane. Redicilous
  • Overall have zero % chance in uptire.
  • R-73 they worked like 3 days ago now one flare and they are gone, redicilous
  • R-27R also so unreliable like I hate to play with them. the radar missle should not go for friendlys EVER. until they fix it Im bombing dont care

Also when you go to test that plane theres nowhere you can put two napalms, but somehow I can equip 2 napalms, so thats the ONLY reason I would say plane is still legite in 12.3 but only same tire or downtires, otherwise I dont know maybe 12.0, 11.7 like minumum I would go.

Also lets be honest, 2-3 kills research like 5-7k per match
1 kill and one base is guaranteed 10k… Im buy premiums strictly to grind I dont care about KDs or anything… and in my opinion Gajin should put bigger multiplayer for fighter planes and put less multiplyer on them bombing base, so it makes me play fighter as I should until then why would I waste my time on some mediocre made radar missles that once locked and fired they still go for firendlys LOL

All Challenger 2s down 0.3-0.7 BR.

All Harriers need major bug fixes and overhauls or if those arent possible, lower all their BRs down.

Anything with BOL is also struggling and BOL overhaul is needed ASAP

Tornado IDS being randomly at either 11.3 or 11.7 is stupid and they should all be 11.3 (especially the GR1 with the nerfed engines)

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Chally 2 / 2F / TES / OES 11.3
Chally BN / 3 TD 11.7
Chally 2E 12.0

That means that it is a very fast plane, but it has a low top speed. At higher alts you will be able to go much faster too.

That isn’t unique to the Bison.

That isn’t unique to the Bison

Unlock if that is about to happen, and don’t launch when it could hit a friendly. Afaik they’re just slower R-27ERs, which are the best SARH in the game.

And you’re base bombing in it, which is a terrible idea. You can’t complain about it, then proceed to not use it as intented.

Taking a standard Mig-21bis (11.0), and giving it R-73s, a decent radar and RWR, and R-27Rs is not worth just a 1.0BR upgrade.

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Clearly the exact same plane with some guided bombs is worthy of being 0.3 higher than the variant without it, how could you question the snail’s infinite wisdom?

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No ttrue, also going high altitude in match with F-14 in Bison is suicide, why even play then.

So its a problem that should be adressed and fixed asap. Right?

Again a problem that should be adressed and resolved as soon as posible.

it happens when I lock and lock is on enemy and missile still goes for friendly. Like my man if you know what Im talking about stop donwplaying it, say YES YOU ARE CORRECT.

Fix radar, wings, missiles, give less multiplyer for bombing and more for killing planes then I will until then again read my post, please dont pick and choose and then make these comments. I explained reason why I bomb…until its more RP for bombing I dont care.

Sure, too bad, radar or RWS or radar missiles dont work as they should.

The IRAFs are a bit of a pain, I agree.

Yes.

Yes, but not by moving planes down in BR.

They usually do.

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F-15E down to 3.7 because there is a sherman there, and during battle of bastogne 101st screaming EAGLES had sherman backup, so the strike EAGLE should be at that BR
F-15C to 3.3 becase has to be 1 step down from E

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