Why does the Israeli f15c not have the AN/APG-70 or AN/APG-63(V)1 radar?
What defines an f15C is literally the improvement of the radar, the RAM mode does not supply lack of TWS, and the HMD is sorely missed.
This “balancing” and design decision makes no sense at all, nations that do not have vehicle asymmetry, which use the same vehicle as another nation should receive equivalent models.
The same is valid for the Su27SM and J11A, China should receive the J11B to have equivalent capabilities.
This type of stupid decision always generates balancing problems, and makes certain nations useless in some patches.
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A YouTuber gaijin partner/friend I know (GeneralLee) said he asked Smin (A community manager) about this and made a bug report, but that nothing can be changed on it. I do hope they reconsider and give it one, but sadly it seems they may not do anything and let the Israeli mains suffer
(Reminder that the Israeli F-15s are the largest contributors in the world to the 104-0 kill count of the F-15)
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Israel Baz meshupar might be not MSIP version?
Also, 63v1 was package from 2000s
70 on F-15C was fitted on last 70 aircrafts
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More than 80% of these downed aircraft were carried out by the f15 Israelis.
And yet Israel has the worst f15, every patch and this same pump and dump of nations, the game can never be balanced, and always too strong a nation against nations without important resources
Not 80%, maybe 50-60%.
±34 aircrafts was downed by US F-15C during Desert Storm
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And? That has nothing to do with the systems installed on the aircraft
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According to Raytheon (Radar manufacturer) ALL F15 models; A, B and initial versions of C and D use the APG-63 PSP radar, both the F15C/D operated by the U.S. Air Force and the air forces of Israel, Japan, and Saudi Arabia.
The Intermediate and later models have AN/APG-70 and AN/APG-63(V)1.
Until 2003, the Baz modernization process was still going on for the “improved Baz” and one of these stages is precisely F-15 Avionics Upgrade Program (AUP).
In addition to the modernization, Israel purchased F 15C/D and received some used F15D from the USA.
It is not possible that the Israeli F15C/D fleet does not have an F15 with either an AN/APG-70 or AN/APG-63(V)1.
In war thunder, USA has an f15C later model, Japan has an f15C later model, why does Israel have an f15c early model?
It is extremely unfair for a nation that contributed so much to the history of the F15 to receive a version that is so different from the other nations that also received the F15C.
Either they all receive version with AN/APG-63 PSP or they all receive F15C laters.
Because if not, the current scenario happens, of the nations that have F15C there is a huge and imbalanceable asymmetry.
You can’t put improved Baz on 13.3 without breaking the game, but keeping him on 13.7 without TWS and HMD is ridiculous.
The ideal would be for the f15s to have at least similar radars (with at least all of them having TWS)
RAM mode is not functional at all, you need to lock a target to change to RAM mode.
Then it should be easy to prove.
The ones they purchased were before the APG-70s implementation. The used D-models did not have the -63v1 or -70
No. And it is a testament to the skill and training of those pliots that they managed to achieve such a record with the actual equipment they carried. Not some fantasy that you want for balance in a game.
You are better off trying to prove the PSP has TWS as well.
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This says nothing about avionics of Baz, and has absolutely nothing to do with game balance.
Soviet book, or smth like that states that it havent
Few bugreports closed
part of the F15C/D fleet was purchased after the end of production of the AN/APG-63, they should have at least AN/APG-70
Of everything that was written above, did you only pay attention to this part?
Nope. Only Israeli F-15s with the APG-70 are the F-15I’s, their F-15E
The F15I also uses the AN/APG-70 I, as well as the F15C/D models after 1986, when production of the AN/APG-63 ended.
Only last 43 C/D versions used APG-70.
Others - 63PSP, later(in 2000s) upgraded to 63V1 and 63V2(after that also 63V3)
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Its the only part that was out of the place, had nothing to do with Baz avionics nor game balance.
If you can prove Baz should have better radar, it should get it without question.
But not because “it is unfair to the nation that contributed to history”.