that is another thing instead of temporary fixing it trough not unique vehicles they should work on fixes that will be permanent, “stealing” another nations vehicle isnt the solution,
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that doesn’t excuse rule breaks.
You are whining here that italy is such a bad tree. It reflects only their military/arms industry of the real world. Germany sucks in the jet age aswell but I am not complaining about that
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But Germany didn’t need a G.56 and SM.92 and Italy desperately did. It’s about game balance not arbitrary rules.
There is no game balance on how many vehicles a nation gets. Else there wouldn’t be minor nations including germany in air above 8.0.
German vehicles belong in the german tree. Else I demand the spanish centauro for germany since they don’t have a top tier light tank
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I don’t argue anymore. The survey speaks for itself. 2/3s want it in the german tree aswell.
I never expected it to be controversal to want a german tank in the german tree
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Funny thing, the M22 was never adopted by the US army because it did not fit into their transport aircraft. Only the british army used the M22. Yet it’s in the US tree in WT.
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So if Italy sucks in WT, then they must suck in real life is your point?
If I put the Maus at 1.0 then that would be reflecting the true superiority of German engineering right? Or if I put the XP-50 at 11.7 then that would show just how awful US aviation was in real life right? Are you forgetting War Thunder is a video game where anything can be twisted into looking better or worse by BRs?
You do realise Swedish tanks in real life were awful? They had mid WW2 era tech in the 1950s, and late WW2 tech in the 1960s. The super OP Sav 20.12.48 which obliterates 1941 tanks is a 1948 creation. If it fought 1948 tanks it would be useless. Yet Sweden is really strong in WT because their vehicles are placed at favourable BRs.
The idea of “letting Italy shine” is ridiculous to me. This isn’t about increasing or decreasing playerbases, it’s about creating a balance. Why is it that German Ground is the only tree that doesn’t have a top tier IFV capable of using ATGMs?
When they added 4th gen fighters Italy got both the Tornado AND the F16 in the same update while Germany got gimped hard only getting the brick that is the Tornado and had to wait another patch just to get the DDR MiG-29. This exclusivity of vehicles for a few patches that every other country besides Germany has a right to is beyond bullshit.
They should have given the Germans the Lynx (or fixed the unfinished Puma) when they added the Freccia, and then given the Italians the Lynx the following update.
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no i point is then you need to fight for italien vehicles to get br right or get their real life stats, that is the permanent solution not “stealing” kF41 so to say which has a place in german tree as well
I was replying to him saying Italy rightfully deserves to suck and doesn’t need attention.
ah my bad
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No other tech tree in War Thunder has tech tree vehicles in service by other in-game countries after those countries were added.
Germany has Spike Puma, they don’t need the Hungarian specific Lynx, and they don’t need an exception to the rule written for them.
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Well the idea of letting Germany shine is ridiculous to me. It’s a really good, really popular, really enjoyable tree. They can’t be the best at everything though, WT is filled with inaccuracies, but at least you get to play a good country.
I never spoke of brs. I spoke of the amount of vehilces developed. US, Russia, Germany, France and Britain have simply a much bigger defense industry
Ariete wasn’t a good tank and it didn’t get export variants while the german leo was so good that most nato country bought it. This result in many export versions which can be added to germany while italy has no more arietes to add
then we get the greek 41 and the whole debate is finished, easy, still it is german product that we want
TAM, TAM IP, TAM 2C all developed and tested in Germany, deployed by the Argentinians and in the German TT. Hello?
It’s your choice maining a minor nations. Italy has many good vehicles like all R3s which are incredible fun. There are so many unique vehicles but you insist on adding german developed vehilces only to the italian tree
That’s not what’s controversial. What’s controversial is immediately trying to make the only high tier unique Hungarian vehicle that helps out Italy no longer unique and get overshadowed by the much stronger German tech tree immediately.
Argentina is not a tech tree nor sub-tree in War Thunder.
Thanks for proving my point.
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Still in service by Hungary, an in-game sub/tech tree.
Spike PUMA is better than it anyway.
Germany not getting the Lynx as well is an exception to the rule
Every other nation gets its export vehicles in its own tree, whether they where in service or not. the US M1A1 AIM for example, despite Australian vehicles usually going to the British, the US got the AIM instead.
And on the Spike Puma, when will that be added? In the nebulous future, in 3 years when Gaijin deigns to finally fix the current Puma and the whole point is mute?
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