I didn’t think the KF41 would come so soon…
Exactly, I agree pretty much 100% with you, nobody is saying Germany must suffer, it’s just that Germany can be improved without taking away the selling point of the Hungarian tree.
It would have to move up to either 11.3 or 11.0 facing 12.0 vehicles like the MiG-29 making it less feasible as a Aircraft. On the other hand the F-4 Phantom UK already faces 12.0 vehicles so it wouldn’t make a difference.
The fact that you do not play in Germany is your business. But when it comes to adding transport specifically to Germany, you need to read what users who constantly or privately play on this nation say. Such is life, you need to respect great or good people, and since I don’t know you, I personally have no respect for you.
Yes, yes, then UK gets the T-90 to which it has nothing to do. And Bulannikov himself let slip on the stream that they added the Colony to the research branch UK
Gaijin Entertainment does not pay salaries here, you go elsewhere, sir
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There are loads of Hungarian vehicles they missed in this subtree:
Interwar to WW2:
Straussler V-4
38M Toldi I
42M Toldi II
42M Toldi IIA (a researchable version)
43M Toldi III
40M Nimrod
41M Turan II (a researchable version)
44M Zrinyi I (a researchable version)
44M Tas
Several modified vehicles with 44M Buzoganyveto anti-tank rockets
Several modified gun trucks
Postwar/cold war/modern:
D-944 PSZH
T-55A SZRP CURRUS
T-55AM HU
T-72M CURRUS
Several other modified vehicles and trucks
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thats all i want to hear, not everyone wants to force it being added immediatly, we only want it secured for the future 2 patches is a relativ good time
Eh debatable, after hungary gets the tiger and panther it arguably is the better tree at that br, because you get acces to light with the Re T20 FA-HS , M18 , it makes a mean combination of protected vehicles and dangerous flankers /scouters which germany is lacking
that is debatable as well, one could argue that gajin since long stopped giving germany prefered treatment compared to us or ussr
like we already stated very sadly we did… we realy realy tried, 140 pages old forum fighting fighting fighting, the only thing we got them to do is improve the overhead, which the KF41 is benefiting from as well Schützenpanzer Puma IFV: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly. - Light Vehicles - War Thunder - Official Forum
Internal bug list of gajin
they just arent doing anything
To end this i just wanna talk about the last sub tree addition of Finland, you know what the unique vehicle of Finland was to get players to try out the Finnish sub tree? Yep the Leopard 2A6 , pretty much taking germanys top tier and unique vehicle for itself. Why is it that germany seems to need to suffer under new tree additions? It did then and is now happening again
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it exists they added it at the same time because they pushed so hard the SK-105A2, (this could have been sarcasm from you, but i am exhausted and in need of a sarcasm sign currently)
Hm no the addition of the KF41 was foreseeable, since it is similar to the Puma, i just thought it would come as a german premium myself. The KF51 will need a long time, 130mm gun, still on the way to be completed with unmanned turret etc, and we arent even close to getting leo 2a7V yet
Germany has been getting the special treatment for years since they already generate a TON of money for Gaijin for years now.
Feel free to tell us when was the last time Germany received “special treatment” that isn’t the Puma being added at too low of a BR for its capabilites (and it wasn’t really Germany receiving special treatment, rather it was Gaijin’s inability to judge the capabilities of ‘light’ vehicles/IFVs back in the day - seeing as many vehicles before and after it, incl; M3A3 and 2S38 and BMP-2M all benefited from it too before being adjusted).
Hint: the year of the Leopard 2A6, 3 years ago.
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questionable as well considering all recent high tier german vehicle additions are broken in some way
I keep asking this question and I never get a straight answer, which I think is very telling.
Do people not grind the Italian M18 because it’s not exclusive to their tree already? Because I’m pretty sure I’ve seen my fair share of Italian players having the time of their lives with the Italian M18. But maybe I’ve just made it up, since apparently people don’t grind any vehicle that is already present in a major tree.
I guess that must be bad news for the Italo-Hungarian Leo2 and T-72. By your analysis, no one will play them.
It would be more unique to Hungary if they had the, you know, Hungarian T-72.
But that’s not even the issue either.
You get to benefit from its strengths while playing the IT/HUN tree, pairing it up with different vehicles in a different lineup. How is that not interesting?
Again, you keep talking of the grind like it’s a chore. One would assume people play through the Italian tree because it’s fun. Not because of one single vehicle - which also implies they wouldn’t care to go back to lower BRs and they’re only a speed bump to the “crown jewel”, which is manifestly false since I see Italian players at every BR, just like all other countries.
Why minus the Nimrod? In any case, sounds like that’s what you and I and everyone else should be asking for, then. There’s no point adding a Hungarian subtree if you’re gonna leave out Hungarian vehicles.
That’s clearly not true though, is it? To stick with the Hungarian stuff, Csaba, Zrinyi and Turan are quite definitely not coming to Germany (nor should they!). Then there’s the unique Italian stuff, like the Freccia. You’d be hard pressed to claim these trees are clones…
The purpose of adding Hungary to the Italian tree is to flesh it out.
You passed it down acritically, and then was surprised that people were dissatisfied by Gaijin’s words. Because it’s clear they don’t care about operators, or many vehicles wouldn’t be where they are (or even in the game at all). That makes it an empty pretext on their part and it’s no wonder people aren’t taking that seriously.
Agreed that IT/HUN needs it more urgently.
Well, why grind an Italian M26? And yet there it is. I encounter it quite often in game. Same for the M18, and the StuG.
btw. the leopard tanks italy ordered should just get added when they will be delievered. Means no leopard 2A7s for Italy for the next years since these tanks need more years to get delievered
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Well, that doesn’t really bode well for the “special treatment” point in the way he meant it though. Since the “treatment” Germany has been receiving since 3 years ago is “the vehicles don’t work” rather than “they’re too OP”.
The fact that you do not play in Germany is your business. But when it comes to adding transport specifically to Germany, you need to read what users who constantly or privately play on this nation say.
I’ve been listening and hearing all this time, I’ve had my mind open and heard everyone loud and clear and respected their opening and 100% get were they’re coming from. You’re currently just assuming what I’m doing and by saying “you only have the Tiger H” doesn’t invalidate my say in this conversation does it now?
since I don’t know you, I personally have no respect for you.
I’ll be frank, respect me or not doesn’t mean you have to trash on what I say here does it? If you hate me, love me or want to ignore what I say doesn’t justify the fact you’re just being disrespectful now.
yes, then UK gets the T-90 to which it has nothing to do. And Bulannikov himself let slip on the stream that they added the Colony to the research branch UK
The United Kingdom is a already struggling Tech Tree, please don’t compare them to Germany. It was specifically said why they added the T-90S Bhishma to Germany and it was because of the dry playstyle of the British Tech Tree and by adding the Bhishma gives the player more options playstyle wise.
The KF41 wouldn’t actually provide any new playstyles the Puma doesn’t fulfil already so I don’t know what to tell you man…
Gaijin had proved that they do not care whether a vehicle is actually in service or not as long as it has a chance of serving: 2S38 being a prime example.
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Other countries are allowed to have nice things. FFS give Hungary it’s time to shine.
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So? Maybe germany will order kf41s in the future if puma production is not fast enough
No one’s saying they shouldn’t get it tbh.
Hungarian Leopard 2A7HU, the most modern leo 2a7 was delivered like 2 weeks ago
Literally what I’ve been saying this whole time but everyone cuts me off. 😂
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