Germany no longer serves in the top tier

Germany stops being good in air after rank 4.

Since… when? They have been strong before but they have never to my knowledge been “meta king” whatever that means.

Oh wow Italy has one decent tank in the ENTIRE lineup and people start thinking it’s good now LOL

They have a few good planes, but it isn’t consistently good. The Mig-15, Lim-5p, and the Mig-21MF are all very good, but the rest are meh.

All of those are found in better air trees.

I’ve seen people say there is no point in playing Germany since Italy also has a leopard before, so people do believe that, sadly.

incorrect, due to east germany it is good up to early rank 8 with mig29g

Bf109 use to be best props in the game, me262 when it was the top jet tier was best in the game. Then they had the sabre which was the best for a long time and dominated air Rb and their migs have been very competitive vs other nations still using phantoms for years then over tiered tornados. To mention just a few planes.

Ground Germany has always had the most under tiered tree with tanks constantly being ignored while their peers keep going up. Got atgm with Russia alone for months if not a year before other nations started getting them also got some of the first mbt and mbt adjacent using heatfs before other nations like America, Britain and Japan.

Navy Germany got heavy cruisers months before America got their first iirc over a year before Britain got theirs. Then they got premiums of those same ships while the other nations were lacking even tech tree heavies. They got scharnhorst a ww2 battle cruiser/ battleship while everyone else was still using ww1 ships. A year or more later were still using ww1 and post ww1 battleships against the 2nd best ships Germany had in ww2.

Germany has the equal largest collection of content with Russia. Germany is with Russia in the most amount of premium and event vehicles, especially top tiers.

This list could honestly keep going but Germany has always shared the meta with Russia so big deal for now you don’t have the best top tier. Your just in the same boat as other nations which have been where you are now for literal years, in some cases their entire existence until now.

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The type 81 is the worst Spaa at top tier and its not even close. The ADATS are the worst at 11.7 but they at least have some anti-tank capabilities.

The flak bus is a very decent spaa, not the best but far from the worst

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Carefully verify its BR.

mb then

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Better than having none… ¯_(ツ)_/¯

*cries in “Imp.Chaparral” * (which should also be called the Drakon lmfao)

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east germany is just ussr but with worse jets minus the 29G being a good variant.

There was always competition in the form of the P-51s, Spitfires, Yaks, etc…

Me262 has LITERALLY never been the best jet in the game at ANY point in this game’s history. The game CAME OUT with the MiG-15 and F-86A5 my guy.

The CL13A Mk5? The one that the only advantage it had was 7% more thrust than the F-86F-2? The F-86F-2 that had WAY better guns as a compensation?

??? What exactly does germany have that is better than phantoms? Phantoms are fine. On top of that, Germany just has lesser variants of the Russian jets lol.

Who are you referring to exactly?

*Cries in Merkava with ~6 sec aced reload, no DM63 120mm, and lol penned anywhere on hull and lower turret. *
And ya know, no sub trees so merks are all we get, oh and there also the imp chaparral as our top tier SPAA lmfao.

If people think one Leopard 2A7V with unfinished model and incorrect armor make Germany so strong or even stronger than Russia then these people need to get reality check

You mean DM53?

Israel is trash but Italy is only a step above Israel. Italy has all the same problems you mentioned besides that they also get some super mediocre IFVs (Lynx/Freccia) and still have the same issue where they have ineffective SPAA.

53, yes, typo haha

At least the freccia is fast and has more than 4 spikes lol… Namer pretty much has just about as much armor as that thing atm,

but hey at least yall get an SPAA with a gun, proxy, and search capabilities. Meanwhile we stuck with the Mk.1 eyeball and absolutely no gimble limit, meaning no close range shots. Not like they’ll even get into range of either of our SPAAs at top tier anyway…

(Perhaps this would make for an interesting topic of discussion, posing the question of “Is Israel now worse than Italy in top tier GRB after the update?” I would say yes overall, but perhaps hearing what everyone else thinks would be interesting… I’ll think about it some more and maybe make a topic with a poll tmrw if I’m still interested in it I guess…)