Germany no longer serves in the top tier

That, I disagree. The 122s are completely superior on this regard.

The flakrakrad is the weakest SPAA at 11.7, and it isn’t even close.

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2A7V with spall liners which arent lining spall. One shot to the side and all turret crew dead. Same as with all other Leopard 2…wounder where the upgrade over the other Leopard 2 is.

except 2a7 the others do not have shielding

They do, though - at the turret.
And even so, that barely matters when Italy has to rock the Ariete. Find me a single spot on that tank that isn’t pennable by DM53.

and one shot and that’s it

…So is every spall liner in-game? Your point being?

It doesn’t matter, it’s more or less the same

It’s DEFINITELY not the same, lmao. Have you ever taken a look at Ariete’s armor? 3MB16 can probably pen that turret cheek. That’s how crap that armor is.

Yes, I have seen it and I don’t disagree with you on that, but the leopards 2 are not as they should be this time.

And how, pray tell, is that? They’re plenty strong and far, far better than any tank Italy has to offer - natively. Their best tank is not even theirs.
Germany remains to be, at very least, top 3 in ground

German cope never ends lol

Just because you had moderately good tanks 80yrs ago doesnt mean you will still be good today. How is that hard to process???

You still have the best MBT in the game, and the first nation to get FnF missiles, stop whining.

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The Leo 2A7V is one of the best tanks in game…

I think it’s just you, take some more copium.

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Could be worse, could be maining Israel…

Horrific damage model moment 💀

I dont see how maining Israel is a problem in war thunder, since the game excludes all the ongoing political stuff.

I main Britain, Italy, China, each with a top tier lineup, and currently grind France and Israel. This game is still fun to me.

Give me a reason that you believe that KF41 would benefit German high tier gameplay at all.

Israel honestly has the worst top tier in the game right now. Even Italy is beating it now that it has the Hungarian Leopard and Gripen for CAS.

China, Britain and Israel are effectively the bottom three, hands down.

Poor Britain and all of their challys… even the Merk seems to be better in terms of survivability sometimes lmao. And yeah, poor china got that long reload rate and low pen rounds still… and that horrible LFP… its pretty rough…

Germany has been meta king since closed beta and they finally aren’t the best at everything and that’s fine. You can’t be best at everything. Can’t keep demanding better because your nation no longer has the best. As mentioned Germany have the best top tier tank and blue water ship. Enjoy those and enjoy your new plane like the rest of us have to do every update.

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