Germany no longer serves in the top tier

Yes but 109 was top dog since closed beta and for a long time after. People use to climb, p51 use to be higher br’s and Germans use to have pilots who climbed which no one else could compete with at the time.

Yes 262 was extremely good in the day. The MIG 15 and sabres have been remodelled and improved a lot over time.

Yes, German sabre was untouchable in its time. Guns don’t matter if they can’t catch you.

Lesser versions of the Russian doesn’t make them unplayable or bad. This is literally the problem, players thinking because they don’t have the very best their game is unplayable.

This would come down to their support vehicles in the aviation and helicopter department if you ask me, and I haven’t ever compared them to know who comes out on top.

Guns do in fact matter when the difference was the CL13 was plinking at people while the F-86F-2 was railgunning them

Isn’t that what you were doing acting like the CL13A Mk5 was that much better than anything else?

Yeah its doing better than most.

The PARS are good if you know how to use them. I have seen people preform very well in UHT.

As if people spawn more than once, the 2A7 is all you need, and if you’re desperate you use a backup or a Centauro.

PARS aren’t ever “good if you know how to use them”, they just CAN work SOMETIMES if the CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT. They are way too finnicky/avoidable and the UHT itself has too many issues even disregarding the PARS.

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my man germany is one of the best nations first being USSR and then Sweden, the only thing it needs rn its bug fixes but that’s like all other nations who also need bug fixes

They have never been meta king, they’ve always just been okay due to firepower being able to compensate for other issues and you could never bully them with heavies.

At the same time they suffered from their reliance on heavy tanks, due to the massive SP costs for spawning in the same category and with a Tiger ll, Tiger ll, Tiger ll, Tiger ll, Tiger 1, Tiger 1 it was way more demanding to play Germany and keep respawning, and you’d always lose out on this to the US who could spawn a light tank for cheap.

Plus a lack of mobility meant the M18 kept flanking them when they were halfway to the point, and when in 2017 we thought were could get a solution, the Ru 251 was a stupidly expensive premium and they continued lacking mobility when Italy got added in 2018, but this was after France was added and the buff to APDS which meant Germany was absolutely getting railed by Caernarvons and Centurions at 6.7, and Italy was useless anyways, which led to nation matchmaking being dropped some time later.

The LeKpz finally arrived in 2019 as the first light tank in that BR range but like 5 years too late.

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The point to play Germany was lost when Sweden has had better Leopards for years, and Germany did not get a new top tier vehicle for 3-4 years only to get a PSO designed for urban warfare… in a tank v tank game…

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If you were just wanting top tier stuff, then yeah, Sweden offers the same tanks but better. However, the top tier is not the whole game.

It’s the only part of the game that gets attention at this point, if you don’t play top tier, what did you get in this last update?

skill issue

i completely forgot to answer this, but the ADATS is the better SPAA by MILES. It has more missiles which are anti-everything, has a better turret, smaller size, bigger mobility, a working cannon, and a better radar. The Flakrakrad is completely outclassed in ALL aspects.

nah the best spaa its the pantsir, second being the Adats, third being the IT0-90M and 4th being the Fla-Rak-Rad worst top tier spaa its the otomatic, while worst top tier missile spaa its the FlaRakRad

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I don’t know about pre 2015 but, in 2016 to 2017 and early 2018 was not untouchable because blue team had F-2 Sabre, Hunter F.1, F-40 Sabre, Vautour IIA.

In 2018 it became OP again, but this was due to super unbalanced matchmakers, not performance issues.

If you aren’t playing with an ace or expert crew at toptier you’re genuinely putting yourself at a disadvantage for no reason

We arrive at a point in the game where all nations will no longer be able to compete with others at all Brs, that’s how it is and we will have to get used to it, unfortunately in aviation Germany does not have The aircraft is equivalent to other nations in this Br apart from the F4F ICE. We will have to wait for the arrival of the Eurofighter to change the situation but nothing can be done
For tanks I don’t think there is a problem, leopards being among the best tanks in the game in top tier

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sweden is basically germany just better