Germany needed Early Eurofighter now. or at least Polish or Dutch F16s

Very little has a working HUD. Sea Harrier FA2 still has the Harrier Gr3 HUD like the FRS1 does

First off, this is GER thread, so I really got no idea what does the UK TT have to do with anything and second, go play Gripen. I’d like to have it in GER TT much more than ICE, but I don’t.

You are complaining about the ICE’s HUD.

Sea Harrier FA2
Torando F3
AV-8B+

All ahve busted or placeholder HUDs. Im sure they are not alone. its not a “German Issue” its a “every nation issue”

No. I want to play British addition. Not South Afircan additions. Just because we have the Gripen Does not mean our other aircraft must be DOA or neglected. Its like me saying the Tornado ASSTA1 should not be fixed because the ICE now has 2x AGM-65Gs. Its a stupid argument,

Then do what German mains constantly told me last year. Play a different nation.

Im not the one demanding that Germany should get the Typhoon before Italy and Britain.

Im not the one demanding for a million different Sub-TTs

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Ok, you still don’t get it.
I’m not asking anything of you.
So, unless you have a power to bestow upgrades to TTs, I really don’t know what are you still doing here.

Telling German mains to be Patient.

Just like how Britain and Sweden had to wait and entire year to get a new top tier jet last year. The most Germany will have to wait is 3 to 6 months.

And unlike both of our nations. The Gap is microscopic between the ICE and the 13.0s. We had a gaping Chasm between our “top tier” and everyone elses.

Tornado F3 or Viggen D vs Mig-29G was and still is a lot worse than ICE vs Su-27, Gripen or F-16. Heck you at least have equal performance IR and BVR missiles. We had niether.

Stop complaining and demanding for nations that have already been denied. Switzerland MAY come at some point with the F-18. It may not. Typhoon is at most 6 months away. At which point all 4 nations will do well (including France with Rafale) until then. Just live with what you’ve got.

could be worse. your top tier could be the Mig-29G with no ARH at all.

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and you are the guy that was making up sources to get the Mig-23MLA RWR buffed and then spent 2 days arguing with a tech mod about how radars worked.

Its just stupid to have this mindset of, “My nations has to wait xx amount of time so this nation must wait as well” how about no and let make all nations balance, F-4F ICE different to F-15 is huge, you only have 4 arh, worst fox 2, the worst airframe of the all the 4th gen and bad acceleration. If you called this microscopic then idk what huge to you is probably a biplane vs f-16.

We are complaining because gaijin arent being consistent with their nation addition.

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The argument isn’t “we had to wait so you have to wait too” it’s “you don’t even have it that bad” the f4f Ice is fine. It’s not great but it’s not all that bad. The meta right now is just shooting arh missiles at shit and hoping for the best so its shortcomings aren’t all that relevant. Same reason that the harriers can be 12.3 despite being subsonic.

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It ‘IS’ game-breaking if it still has only a 0.3BR difference compared to Tornado F.3 Late which is on 12.7BR while having a useless airframe when she was on 11.3BR and faced F-4 as an enemy. or of course against F-4F KWS LV.

Sorry for the late reply anyway.

Turns out BOL was used on 15C anyways lol

Sadly, there is a ‘Balancing Issue’ with modifications.
well, seems USA mains usually won’t want to accept.

British Harriers, Jaguars, and F-4M Phantom FGR.2 used AIM-9L in real life but failed to grab their AIM-9L thanks to dumb balancing issues.
Also, Super Etendard on the French Navy historically can access R.550 Magic 2 but didn’t get it cuz it might be too powerful at its battle rating.

But at the same time, your A-10A and A-6E succeed in grabbing AIM-9L by historical issue and spamming them to Flareless planes for completely ruining 9~10BR. :/ seems out of topic though.

anyway, in the current situation, American rules the air once again. giving BOL on 15C might be overkill. waits F-15C(late.)

Yeah, but it would give the American f15c something over the Japanese one, and honestly I’m sick of the Japanese version of an American plane that is a few years younger of its counterpart in US tree being just better, since only US used BOL.

Also for the phantoms, I don’t think there are any phantoms in US or most trees that have 9L so it’s a balancing thing across most of the phantoms

I think I can understand your pain pal.
The British F-4J(UK) is just a downgraded version of the American F-4J (No HMD and AIM-7F but only Skyflash as a historical issue) and costs the same 70$ as the F-4S. XD

The F-4J has HMD? Real shame though, for a premium it deserves better

Yep, exactly this. ICE is perfectly usable, just not quite as good as other. F3 and Viggen D were DOA

Ok, so what will you say when ICE turns out in 2 months with garbage WR and kill ratio?

We tried.

Got gaijined instead.

Eurofighter should be added to everyone at same time it would be unfair to add it only to one, why should other nations not get their indigenous vehicles just because Germany lacks a gen 4 platform for a couple of updates?

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It is stupid to have the assumption that Germany will have a meta addition each update, most other nations have had to wait for a meta/usable vehicle. You have the f4 ice which might not be the best vehicle of the update but is still a fox 3 carrier and is still usable