You dont get it. My point is when one nation gets stuff like that accepted but another doesnt despite having similar quality of sources then thats gonna leave a bad taste in the mouths of the denied nations players. It of course doesnt mean that Gaijin hates Germany but its annoying anyway.
1.If you can get reliable all time stats we can happily discuss those.
2. What do all time stats have to do with the current performance of a tree in the first place?
Yes? Thats how discussing lineups and assymetric balancing work. If a nation is missing a crucial capability that another has then that has to be balanced somewhere else. Really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
Just me playing their tanks at top tier. Because there really isn’t a metric besides what Gajin has on hand we don’t have access to.
Gajin needs to nerf helicopters more than.
This concept gajin has is a joke to begin with because game balance take priority over realism. I have seen good arguments from all nations on tech being denied but I can’t speak to why.
There is none is my point.
I agree they’re not winning based on sharkstat. Sharkstat is useless it’s usable in different concepts but what about all the months of them owning top tier from USA, Germany, and Russia? Feb 2025, march 2025, June 2025, July 2025, August 2025, etc. When I look at the whole picture looks like useless information as minor nations usually also do better than the big 3 most times overall. Can’t base German suffrage on sharkstat.
I will say give it the 2A8, give it new top tier content no problem whatsoever
However, reread this guys forum letter its just downright wrong way of doing it and still cringe and weird.
If the lineup is so bad how are worse tanks in minor nations outperforming the big 3?
It is because all is painting it the story you want to paint while ignoring all the data. Italy has been killing it where’s the nerfs to the crappiest top tier tank there?
What about the months Japan literally takes names? No armor literally a glass cannon with the worst spaa in game.
If you look at the whole picture all you see is people shifting around based on content or what they want to play none of that data screams “Germany suffers”
Germany’s lineup is fine and plenty of players playing it, even this cringe original forum guy posted has over 2k games on a single 2A7. Last month the 2A7V help top 4th most played tank with good K/S and bad win rate looks like its fine to me.
Blind nationalism does not mean Germany suffers in game
Also I don’t but just playing BR 12 leopard is good and I get uptired. Overall, Germany doesn’t suffer but I’m always down for new content. Once I unlocked the 2A7 I’ll play it for a while and move on to british tree.
Because you cant compare nations with 3%-5% playrate with majors that have 3,4 or 5 times as many games.
Even if that was true then why do you think do those people shift eh? Why are they not playing Germany?
Its not blind nationalism if you actually give reasons and have statistics backing you up.
Sick so ive been discussing the capability of German top tier with someone that doesnt even have a single Rank 8 German vehicle. 12.0 experience means nothing when the problematic BR is 13.0. How would you have an actual idea how good German 12.7/13.0 is if youve never touched it?
Proving the point “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics” - Benjamin Disraeli
Refer to above for your answer.
Dude only plays Germany and touched some Russia. Go look for yourself 2k games on a single tank is fking bonkers.
It does, I am playing BR 12 which is worse performing on Sharstat than BR 12.7 for Germany and getting 60% winrate… where’s your next argument using sharkstat going to go to paint another picture?
Not proving the point at all. You just have to compare Germany to nations with similar playrates.
Ok? But youre talking to me rn, not him.
It doesnt. Again, how would someone that never played a single rank 8 german vehicle have a valid opinion on their quality in the current Meta?
You have a total of 101 games in your 12.0 Leopards. Thats about 0.00009% of the 1,122,210 games those 2 tanks played in June. So your stats are about as statistically insignificant as it gets.
I’m playing at the worst BR for Germany where a downtier they are more likely to lose and uptier they are more likely to win. please explain to me how 12.7 is doing worse than 12 or 11.7 with your statistics these past couple of months? Or are you simply choosing data and deflecting for all to see?
101 games on tanks for an individual getting a 60% winrate a the worst BR for Germany vs the whole entire playerbase? Dang you really stretching these statistics aren’t you m8? How many pictures can you draw using different data points?
How does that change the fact that you havent played a single rank 8 german vehicle and therefore have 0 knowledge how good they actually are?
Because they arent the same BRs and play different matches? I really dont know what your point is supposed to be.
No? Im explaining to you how statistics work and im telling you that your 100 games are entirely insignificant compared to the games played in total.
Not understanding statistics is one thing. Talking high and mighty about a lineup that youve never even played is another. But doing both at the same time is just embarrassing.
This is coping now, you brought sharkstat got proven wrong and now it’s changing the goal post for “you don’t have rank 8 you don’t know” sooooo then this guy can’t talk on any other nation because he only has 2 nations at rank 8? what about you? this is your own logic and worst attempt at proving a point.
That’s just NOT true. You do know BR 12 gets uptiered to BR 13? Meaning I can go up against Sepv3 in a BR 12 leo and do well vs having the 2A7 which is miles better. This is just flawed, BR 12 I get worse chances of winning. Uptier i am more likely to win at 12.7 and downtier… I’m more likely to lose? This is your own sharkstat logic working against you.
you’re not explaining anything infact I don’t even think you know what you’re talking about now. I am down for all new content but Germany does not suffer especially with these good leos they have. Overall, this is just condescending right now and getting nowhere.
There is no need for a 2A8 and they won’t add it anytime soon.
The 2A7A1 was passed to devs. That is what’s coming next patch or the one after and it is literally 100% guaranteed.
The armor rework they announced like 3 years ago would have helped much more than any new Leopard.
Suggestions have no relation at all, thats mostly community managed and the volunter mods pick what they pass at times. It being passed does not mean anything,
You know how long ago my Wiesel Mells got passed?
Or the challenger 130 for germany?
What? I mean yes 2A5 and 2A6 are falling behind because of the horrible optics and comparatively long reload for their other features but the 2PL is still pretty good and the PSO can at least sometimes survive the random ATGM or HE shell.
