Germany Has Been Left Behind – Leopard Armor, Missing 2A8 and the Decline of German Players

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No? I neither got proven wrong nor am i changing goal posts. Youre just wrong about the stats and on top dont have any experience with the things youre talking about.

Mhm and how many 13.0 players can you see in a game?

Youre not more likely to lose, your 100 games are just irrelevant. And the matchmaker is still vastly different at each BR, especially at top tier.

Ive been explaining it quite well for now but i can happily make it simpler for you:

Your claim: German top tier is fine
What speaks for you: Youre doing well in 12.0 german tanks.
What doesnt speak for you: The actual stats of thousands of players, the fact that you dont have a single game in german rank 8, the opinions of people that have actually played top tier Germany.
Do you see now why its kinda hard not to be somewhat condescending?

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Do i have to show you the multiple swedish tech mods, one that literaly has strv122 in their title from a feature that quickly got closed by gajin?

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If you wanna tell me the guy with strv122 in an extra title is not biased and wont push for it i would question your sanity

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And this guy is complaining that people are condescending towards him…

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well yes they might be but I don’t see how that’s really relevant. We have three Strv 122 and a 2A6 in the Swedish tree. The 122s are all better armored than the 2A7V and have DM53 now.

So it’s safe to say Gaijin doesn’t hate Sweden at least

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If this comes I’m going to come back to Sweden for a while. I’m hoping it at least has Gen 2 thermals for gunners.

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thats a bigger argument for them to get a 2a8 lol

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Gen 3, its basicaly a 2a7V

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I’m going to have to step up my grind then this is going to come out at 400k RP on release

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Now i have a reason to push for the aced crew

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still unlikely to be added any time soon, or if at all just saying.

Gajin adds new tanks in a 2 -3 year speed.
So norwegian 2a8 and then most likely the strv123b later on

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Why? The APS doesn’t really do much, I’d argue the improved armor and survivability are more useful and since it has an L55 and Gen 3 thermals…

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You mean the same as the 2a8? not sure what you are arguing their.
it gets aps and lws, so together with new cannon and new gen thermals.

and what improved armor? the strv123a if anything gets worse armor if it has been updated to 2a7 standards

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wat? you expect Gaijin change the armor from the 122 and downgrade it???

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Would they be smart they would switch values of 2a7V and strv122. But ehh.
Will be imtresting how gsjin explains the strv123b which is a pure 2a8 having worse armor then the A then

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Uhm not quite sure what you’re trying to tell me here? So the 123 is supposed to have the same armor as the 2A7?

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Pretty much yes.

Knds statement higher lvl of protection
Since it lacks aps, it has to be the real armor.
The newest armor is only the one of the 2a7v/2a8 series whichbis the same for all current statements

More specific information, we likely would only get as part of a new tangograd book

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and you expect this to be represented in game? really?

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Hey, if it means germany gets a 2a8 with even higher armor values i wont complain either

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neither is happening though? 123 will have 122 armor, 2A8 will have 2A7 armor

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Strv123b is just a 2a8.
It has no relation to the strv122 anymore.