But at what point does “weak” become subjective? Different nations designed different vehicles, and there are too many aspects of these vehicles for a perfect 1:1 comparison?
Unfortunately, unless gaijin completely does away with the tree system (they wont) there will always be some level of mismatch between different nations’ capabilities at any given BR that we’ll have to live with. Decompression and better BR balancing can help, but it’ll never be perfect.
And I know you feel like Germany in specific is being targeted, but there are 9 other trees in the game.
In your original post you state that:
France has yet to receive a single French (or functionally unique) tank or plane so far in 2026, does that make it weaker, and therefore more deserving of focus than Germany?
I agree Germany has some gaps (especially above 10.7) but I’m not sure if similar issues can’t be raised regarding other trees as wel
Okay? This thread is about Germany tho? Im sure you can find similar threads for most tech trees with a big enough playerbase. And while the point about dwindling playercounts might not be true Germanys top tier performance has been suffering quite a lot since September.
This guy sounds like Germany in game is dying and is falling apart. Asking about getting a tank added vs making it sounds like they’re becoming a victim are two completely different things. When I read his thread I’m like cool sounds like a new tank vs wtf in blue hair coffee shop victimhood did I just read?
People get bored of playing the same top tier nation every month. It’s a shuffle of players going for new things yes, this thread makes it sound like it’s a literal lineup problem when it isn’t. The worst thing for WT is following things like statshark where they literally can’t get the same data as Gajin and if they are that might explain why they haven’t even updated July yet. Either way, New tank yes always down for new stuff. Victim man over here nahh this shyt was downright weird reading.
I agree that he makes it sound much more dramatic than it is but is he completely wrong? Germany gets a new SPAA → Gaijin immediately adds the perfect counter next update. The US gets anti ERA darts, Germany gets its own denied. The Abrams gets an armor buff, Germany gets similar reports denied. The US and russian get top tier MBTs with APS, Germany doesnt. They get a new Eurofighter, its worse than the other versions.
I really dont think that Gaijin has some sort of grievance with the tech tree but performance has been in the gutter for something like 9 months now and Gaijin hasnt made a single move to change that despite there being ample of easy and quick fixes/buffs that could help.
Of course it is. Either the lineup is simply not competitive anymore or if youre one of the people believing that winrates are entirely based on experienced players then the lack of new or exciting things leads to the bad performance.
Either way the lineup is the reason for the bad performance.
But it does. Alone the fact that there’s no way to shot down DIRCM helis makes German teams autolose. You can’t do anything to prevent the ATGM massacre. But I’m guessing AH-64, Z-10 and Mi-28 players have fun spamming their missiles without any counter.
I totally stopped playing German top tier, cause I’m tired to have no chance. Last time I played a Leopard 2 was over a year ago. I’m not the only one. Watch the queue numbers, in case your strong bias allows this^^ If a faction is not competitive, ppl play something else.
100% wrong, never played a game where Germany isn’t in it. Leopard 2 lineup is fine. Talks about 2A8 without providing work from others where they break down the tank or even talk about how the tank is just says “please make it real” Crying about getting new stuff like Germany didn’t get a new hummel and premium puma is like crying they didn’t get what they wanted for Christmas. The whole thing was honestly the Cringest thing I’ve read on forums in a long time or EVER, this is the stuff that should be on reddit or some trauma dump site playing victimhood on a nation that is fine where it is in top tier.
Not true, in fact it is still very strong the only difference was CAS mains cried how strong it was and eventually changed their tactics to low and precision vs flying everywhere.
Have you played the new darts? It doesn’t change the game it’s just a new round nothing special about it. No noticeable difference than the A2.
Not really minus the turret cheeks for sepv3 and trophy and added volumetric you still will get rocked by 30mm to rings. Not a big deal just the way it is in this game.
So then every nation should get a new top tier tank every update so no one feels left out right? or just Germany? I think it’s coming but this is in regards to what he wrote.
Based on what sharkstat? Germany has had its good and bad months like most nations. I play it and sometimes I win and sometimes I lose can’t control teammates one bit.
Maybe, but other nations have good things too. Just look at the French Rafale with the MICAs. Is the US going to get compensation for the BeNeLux additions to top tier France?
Literally a complaint across all nations except Russia since they have the SM-SV. Germany also have Flak similar to ADATS which can shoot down helicopters better than radar guided missiles.
Sounds like a SPAA/ helicopter problem not a 2A8 or trophy problem.
Yeah, his arguments are all a bit strange. Also Flarak has a max range of 10km (practical range). So maybe he could answer how to reach a Mi-28. I mean, why would Mi-28 players close in that far?
Hitting a helicopter with anything but SACLOS, beam guided missiles is almost a guarantee miss at top tier. That is a game and helicopter problem that Gajin needs to fix for top tier and not a Germany only problem.
Well of course. They are still a major after all but that doesnt mean that they are in a good spot.
The Hummel was a nice addition but are we really saying that people should be happy or thankful for the prem Puma?
They added LDIRCM the next update (and FnF missiles for the helis that already had it.)
Okay? Its still a new mechanic that Germany got denied.
Same story. Similar reports for Germany are ignored. The US gets it.
Probably yes. If there are suitable additions (not every tech tree has access to everything like Germany with an LDIRCM heli) then every tech tree should get capabilites together.
Yes? Germanys last good month was September.
Yes it is and i literally explained to you why even if you think that winrate is only dependant on experienced players that swap trees.
At least some of those other nations have LDIRCM Helis themselves.
Are you having problems killing ERA with DM53?? Last I check I can still pop those russian trash cans with lesser ammo from other nations without the useless ERA “buff”
They still get rocked by 30mm doesn’t matter and most if not all nations are having autocannon problems.
Semptember bad what about all time stats? Or we don’t care about that
Some other nations don’t even have SPAA capable of taking down a helicopter period should we just use this as a “they have this and we don’t” argument? If Helicopters are the reason Germany can’t perform this forum is useless. You’re just going to get rocked by helicopters until Gajin fixes that as the root cause.
its a 2a7v with aps and lws, there is not much to breakdown to be fair.
The changes are minimal overall.
Its what the black knight is to a challenger
Gajin had to relant that its so unpopular and bad they had to announce they gonna rework the Puma, to even make it saleable lol. A KF41 would have made a better reception if only for collections sake.
i do believe stuff like that should be added equaly across the board, like the turret basket half a year for abrams and leos only was shit as well
You dont get it. My point is when one nation gets stuff like that accepted but another doesnt despite having similar quality of sources then thats gonna leave a bad taste in the mouths of the denied nations players. It of course doesnt mean that Gaijin hates Germany but its annoying anyway.
1.If you can get reliable all time stats we can happily discuss those.
2. What do all time stats have to do with the current performance of a tree in the first place?
Yes? Thats how discussing lineups and assymetric balancing work. If a nation is missing a crucial capability that another has then that has to be balanced somewhere else. Really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
Just me playing their tanks at top tier. Because there really isn’t a metric besides what Gajin has on hand we don’t have access to.
Gajin needs to nerf helicopters more than.
This concept gajin has is a joke to begin with because game balance take priority over realism. I have seen good arguments from all nations on tech being denied but I can’t speak to why.
There is none is my point.
I agree they’re not winning based on sharkstat. Sharkstat is useless it’s usable in different concepts but what about all the months of them owning top tier from USA, Germany, and Russia? Feb 2025, march 2025, June 2025, July 2025, August 2025, etc. When I look at the whole picture looks like useless information as minor nations usually also do better than the big 3 most times overall. Can’t base German suffrage on sharkstat.
I will say give it the 2A8, give it new top tier content no problem whatsoever
However, reread this guys forum letter its just downright wrong way of doing it and still cringe and weird.
