Not Loads left to add, but enough if you want to full flesh out the SPAA tree for almost every BR
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Britain thst uses the skink?
The Wiesel should be 6.7 … that is it on the same BR as radar spaa’s just shows the bias that gaijin has.
lol and america is the least affected by CAS
From the looks of things it does, at least for some br brackets, low tier the T77E1 is the most user friendly SPAA and extremely effective due to its firing rate and shell volumn per minute, still a chad even after they suddenly remember that this thing doesn’t overheated. And then 9.0 while already having a God tier SPAA known as Sergeant York, they decide that it’s a good idea to have a missile SPAA in the same br as spare incase the Sergeant goes to Valhalla lol the AA ability of these two is unmatched, since I don’t play CAP/CAS in this br, I’ve heard that USA also have the best air power in the respective br is that true also?
But at 7.3 they lacks viable SPAA though, the M163 is no match for the Shilka even lacks a radar it is a better AA and also AT.
At 6.7 I only has enough experience playing USA and Germany, so far I couldn’t tell if one having worse CAS problem than the other one, almost feel equally bad from time to time. When playing USA we have this tank killer me 262 with a huge nose cannon every other matches, sometimes multiple one in the game and they could kill anything including heavy tanks from the top, other times I when playing Germany have I has these A1H having 7 kills that seemingly having enough rockets to last the entire match and one time someone spawn having 8 kills with it and I checked his stats his ground KDR for the A1H is around 10.0 lol
just move kugel down to 6.7, only thing thats needed
Easy to fix for Gaijin …just give historical performance of German SPAA back
But then how will they sell planes
That is one and only reason why German 37 mm perform so badly
Kugel is just as bad ,turret rotation is not suited to battles involving planes that in some cases are from 30 years after WWII. Long range you have no chance to hit ,short range you can’t track ,in both cases even when you hit your ammo does no damage.
You need to hit some planes 30 times just for them to suffer any damage
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what was nerfed
Everything ,from turret rotation to projectile speed to removal of HVAP to many other things
From German explosives being nerfed (based on 1945 data ,same as german armor effectiveness ,also based on 1945 data)
Gaijin has hatred for everything German
There are Leopard I based SPAA’s for both German and Italian TT’s that would fit right into 6.7/7.7 bracket ,they refuse to add them …
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Please provide a detailed, reproducable series of steps on how you would engage an aircraft that is flying at 1.5-3.0 km altitude with a TAS around 500 km/h possessing high levels of elevator authority and G-suit to pull out of a steep ~70-90 degree dive and thus only lingering within your effective range of 0.6-0.8km guns for less than a few seconds.
I’m describing F4U-4(b) as example plane or the P-51H depending if we’re talking 5-6 or 6-7.
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Well, i won’t engage him. I will patiently wait for him to get lower or let fighters deal with him.
He can’t effectively engage ground targets from such altitude anyway, even in best possible weather condition it is hard and unreliable. And if he doesn’t pose any threat to ground units why should i bother? Technically F4 could try to snipe out AAs with HVAR, but for that AA would need to stop moving and reveal itself by firing.
Majority of planes need to get down to below 1km in dive in order to effectively do the CAS job at this BR which makes them more than possible to engage with AA.
Only problematic things are stuff like TU-2, PE-8, Shackleton or Ju-288.
They have bomb sight and bombs large enough to not really care about pinpoint accuracy, but on the other hand they can be fairly easly shot down by fighters
Yeah thats… not evident here, I can think of many cases that Germany was given things (Hunter F58 immediately comes to mind)
Is there documentation proving gaijin’s stats to be false?
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most ppl aren’t doing super skillful 1.5km minimum altitude dives
It took them three years to fix Kubel turret rotation after being given documents
Only “Sekrit Dokuments” matter and are to be trusted ,everything else is a lie
The Kugelblitz is right there, but for some god forsaken reason Gaijin refuses to lower the BR to 6.7 and it sits 0.3 away from a M163 or a Shilka, which is mental.
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Pretty much everyone has a void in that gap except a few
I think u dont play much SPAA, if u learn ur weapon u can kill mostly everything in the sky.
I have with Ostwind 5.3 and Flakpanzer 341 6.3 (they have actually the same Gun) over 350 air kills and a K/D ratio of 2 maybe it would be higher because i use them sometimes for stupid things.
They only fire at 450rpm and don’t alternate at all. It’s pretty poor in that regard.
With each barrel at 250rpm it can fire at up to 500rpm, so you actually have more consistent firepower than the Zerstorer 45.
Coelian.
lol no.
Germany already has the most overpowered low-mid tier SPAA in Warthunder.
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some of the best SPAA of the BR range wirbelwinds and ostwinds can be taken significantly higher and still bring havoc to the skies
