Germany 5.7 too strong after Tiger pack wins 66%?

While the pack Tigers are a straight upgrade to the tech tree Tiger H1, it’s not a huge difference. The track armor doesn’t render them immune to anything a properly angled H1 isn’t already immune to, namely the American 75 and 76mm guns. 85s, 90s and 17 pounders still rip right through, let alone the real high pen stuff they see in uptiers.

All it does is make them resistant to the 75mm flat on, and make angling against the 76mm more forgiving. And those guns are still free to aim for the cupola for an easy disable.

Were there a BR step between the H1 and the E, they’d belong there. But as none exists, they’re fine at 5.7.

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I’ve seen a lot of experienced players using the pack. Seems like it’s attracting folks who are already very much into this game, due to it being a bundle.

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Win rates are a statistic of team skill, not power of a vehicle.
They are balanced, just purchased by skilled tankers.

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The tigers are flat box tanks that anything above 75mm caliber would kill it on short and medium range. The bad thing is that 90% maps are close combat maps that require fighting up close which the tiger advantage long range sniping is gone.

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this is silly because after adding this pack they screwed the tiger by removing all volumetrics in every tiger so you can easily one shot it they raise the BR of the tiger E and nerf it can we not have anything fun ? like at least move the E model to 5.7 again after this change everyone and there 76 sherman can go through my manlet it ruins

please add long range maps to low tier its all i want it solves 90% of my problems

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TIGER E should go back to 5.7 and H1 to 5.3 it adds way to many weak spots

The mistake was to limit the pack to one nation. They really should have launched premium packs for at least the US and USSR that mirrored the Tiger pack. Fill them with Jumbo’s and IS-1’s and call it a day.

As it is now, they’ve tipped the scales too far in Germany’s direction.

Accounting probably has and or is running the numbers on the 2 Front pack sales. I’ve seen plenty of them in games so it looks like it was a good call on Gaijin to do it. I bought the pack and will do it again for other nations if it’s on par with the 2 Fronts pack. Would like to see what they offer for US/USSR and other nations. I’d actually like to see them offered more than once a year like a seasonal sale.

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While playing the Tiger pack, I noticed that the best positions to play such a fragile heavy somehow got nerfed into oblivion. On almost all maps you play close and personal or not at all. Almost every map has redzones now on hilltops, map edges, flanking routes, special positions like inner yards of ruins etc etc. Even my fav Fulda got butchered, the eastern hills are flat now and additionally the whole map area has been redzoned. Double kill.

Also on this map the best sniping spot has been made inaccessible for heavy (bigger) tanks. As you can see the EBR could easily drive up there to snipe and ambush, while my Tiger can’t. The newly added rock formation made the onramp impassable for a Tiger tank. Also trees and other obstacles are now everywhere. I really don’t know whats behind all this. All are talking about sniping and long range, while in fact all those options are gone.

With these maps Tigers are just no good tanks. They’re outright bad in close range knife fights and longer range engagements are less and less possible.

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