I wasn’t interested on the 5.7 German lineup because, although I liked Tiger H1, I always found it to be too lonely at that BR.
Now, with the pack, I get to spawn Tiger H1 3 times! And I love the new cosmetics, plus SL grinding lineup due to Premium status…
So I’ve gone back to 5.7 and have a +3:1 K/D on the pack Tigers.
And, as you said, it’s not because of the logs lmao. They hardly make a difference at all. In fact, I have better performance in Tiger West than I do on OST (the logs one).
No. It’s because I’m a 9 nation Top Tier player with well over 6,000 hours worth of playtime over the last 11 years. I’m not even good in relation to the experience I have- but when my opponents are level 20s who shoot at my Tiger on the LOWER FRONT PLATE even though they could easily destroy it by shooting at the UFP or cupola… yeah, of course I’m going to do well- and not because “Tiger is OP”.
Maybe there’s a reason why I’m not purposely mentioning the experienced players. Cause I know. It’s not a case of “I’m missing the point”. I’m purposely not stating the obvious. But the point still stands, those vehicles still have advantages over the Tech Tree counterparts.
Another thing is most of them are coming from other Tech Trees.
We’re in a topic discussing why Germany has a higher winrate now with these Tigers and you’re going on about some logs and a camo net. The obvious seems to not be sinking in for you no matter what you say. Glad the others get it.
Mate it’s all connected Genius.
Logs, camo netting->Experienced Players=buying the pack=those vehicles having more survivability=less likelihood of dying higher win rates. Think Sir Think.
You’re just being a troll at this point. You’re wrong and won’t admit it. You even tried to throw in ‘pay to win’. OP asked a simple question. I answered. You tried to spew something about logs. No, sir. Last reply to you. Stop trying to ‘debate’ in bad faith.
Facepalm I’m just not gonna bother responding to you. You folks never understand the bigger picture and always focus on only 1 puzzle piece rather than the whole thing. Your looking at C rather than trying to figure out A and B first. That lead to C.
Even though they offer a tiny bit of advantage, it is justified because those players offer money bro, I like it when people are poor they all become communist lol
T-34-57 is basically a high-pen T-34 with less post-pen effect. It’s certainly one of the vehicles with the most pen available at 4.7. So using it primarily as an example of a 4.7 vehicle is very flawed.
Thing is, by 5.7, most vehicles can easily pen Tiger Is, even when angling.
American 76s may struggle with angled Tigers, but then you get:
American 90s, French 75s, British 76.2 and 77s, Russian and Chinese 85, 100 and 122s…
And the thing is; why is it so terrible that a Heavy Tank can sometimes withstand some shots from smaller guns when perfectly angled?
Why is there such a widespread notion that a Heavy Tank must be easily killable from the front even when perfectly positioned by everything it may face?
Win rates can be misleading. In this case win rate could be just that they have so many they can keep respawning while other team is full of people 1 spawn leaving and only 1 or 2 vehicles for the br etc. Additionally with that in mind because they are premiums (and have enough 5.3 and 5.7 premiums to make full lineups of only premium) people are happy to respawn because of the huge income they will generate vs the enemy in non premium linups
This premium pack was super dumb. The tanks themselves aren’t OP just that they now have so so many of them they just outlast the enemy.
I always felt like the Tiger was underrepresented ingame.
A single, lone 5.7, backed up mostly by 5.0s and 5.3s before having to jump to 6.0 and face 7.0s if you want mes to have a second Tiger spawn…
Now, there’s finally an ACTUAL, Tiger-based, 5.7 lineup.
This pack is literally the only thing that has made me play something outside of Top Tier in years.
Until now, Tiger lovers had to deal with having only 1 Tiger spawn and then having to resort to casemate Panther D followed by 5.0s or TDs; now, we can finally get to play Tiger more than one spawn per match.
And, for once, the price is actually fair and fit for the product. I think any active player who spends hundreds of hours playing War Thunder every year should have no issue supporting their game by getting this pack for the price of two Burger King menus if they really want it.
Most of those also struggle with angled Tigers…
You are making some of the most illogical arguments I’ve seen been presented seriously, and also using strawmen. Are you debating in bad faith or trolling?
the individual vehicles itself arent massivley P2W, they still have better armour so it technically is but not by a game breaking amount.
The problem is that you are paying for a collective of vehicles which created a really strong lineup, the purchaser has had to do nothing but exchange money for a very good tank they can spawn multiple times and a solid SPAA giving waller warriors an immediate edge as they are going to get RP and SL real fast and then can build a full lineup that’s so large and strong that it can just beat enemy teams out of attrition even when they players suck to the point of not being able to utilise the vehicles to ther maximum.
A lineup of 4 Tigers (if they then bought the Porsche tiger premium), the pz 4 70 TD and two ostwinds, likely a BF109 G or K too kicks the hell out of American, British, soviet, Japanese, Chinese, French and Swedish 5.7 lineups. only reason it doesn’t beat the Italian and Israeli lineups is because 5.3 doesn’t exist for them. there may be better tanks in said trees but overall nobody can keep up with this
