The smaller the calibre, the better. Its the same with cruisers. 15cm tripple turrets are alot more precise and faster firing than Spee’s 28cm. Which are hell of inaccurate and suffer long reloads. So you get much better matches with Nürnberg’s or any US cruiser with that calibre. Its the same with Scharnhorst’s 28cm guns vs. 38cm ones. With Scharn you get alot more hits in less time. While my Bayern classes take ages to reload any you can’t hit anything with that spread.
They also artificially nerf the dispersal of 15 inch guns. Even though they were some of the most accurate IRL. Its a thing they do for “balance”
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Yep, the bigger the gun, the worse modifiers Gajin slaps on it. Just look at the Spee, the shell trajectories are literally crooked while they exiting the barrels. That thing is almost defenseless due to this non-accuracy + super long reload. Its exactly the same with 15’’ guns. Its even worse with Mutsu’s 41cm barrels…it should be the strongest ship in WT…
Yep, though a ship that has far less accuracy than id expect is HMS Tiger. 4x 6 inch guns, fast reload, but if the target is any further than 9km away. good luck hitting anything with them
I don’t understand what’s with artificially balancing accuracy by modifiers, especially if there’s primary source docs on their accuracy (range tables etc)
It’s like the stupid World of Tanks mechanic where you can aim at someones weakspots over and over but because the game says “no” you miss, ricochet, and die.
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Gaijin doesn’t want ships to kill each other too fast. However, they don’t want ships to kill each other too slow either (see their page of excuses when coastal first came out) since they want to keep matches below 30 minutes… for some reason.
This means you have a 30 minute match timer and limited respawns, preventing matches from going on too long; but also weird modifiers making it more difficult to kill things so matches don’t end too abruptly.
Unless Gaijin relents and does some kind of EC hybrid mode (they won’t), we’re only going to see more dumb modifiers. Especially since most submarines will be borderline unplayable without them in the current system.
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I’m sorry but that’s nonsense. If that were the case why the hell are there maps where you can snipe spawn to spawn.
It’s simple. Bigger gun = worse accuracy whether or not those gun is accurate at real life. See British 15’’ that was one of most accurate naval gun in WW2(even more than destroyer guns) and how accurate American 14’', one has worst accuracy in WW2.
Not sure about KGV, but PoW certainly had civilians on board for that purpose. PoW wasn’t really combat ready and was still being ‘fixed’ when Bismarck sortied. Under pressure, either from above or self-induced, the captain declared PoW ‘combat ready’ when in retrospect clearly she wasn’t (it seems unlikely he’d have made that call if Bismarck was still in port).
KGV was in a better state, having had time to be made combat ready under ‘normal’ wartime conditions. However, she too may well have had contractors on board, as her guns remained problematic. The older and bigger 16” guns on Rodney managed a higher rate of fire than KGV during the final battle with Bismarck.
The game will simply delete the first target once it’s within range. Next target: delete. Delete, delete, delete etc until no more targets.
I get that, don’t get me wrong.
I just think it’s fundamentally wrong to artificially nerf British Guns, which were known for be absurdly accurate, because “uhhhh bigger calibre”
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Bismarcks turtleback is 110mm, not 124mm, so just a 5mm increase, but very importantly the upper belt, which is only 35mm on Scharnhorst, is 145mm on Bismarck, so it wouldnt suffer the same HE-spam to the upper belt leading to large water ingress as soon as the ship dips lower into the water.
Upper belt is the same 320mm … I think. not sure if the 20mm of hull skin are included in this figure, they seem to be treated seperately on the plans, so I think it isnt
Same with German guns, they and Britain arent tied for the longest naval gun hit in history without reason
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Bismarck 320 and Tirpitz 315. for the 20 mm, 25 mm hull structual steel would be applied instead, same as most of other capital ships.
the 320mm picture is from Tirpitz, Bismarck’s doesnt seem to be digitalized.
For the hull steel, true. Just wasnt sure if it is still included where other armor sits
Only over the machinery. The magazines were protected by 120 mm.
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The Beplattungs und Balken des Panzerdecks plan doesnt indicate any increased turtleback armor over the magazines, though its from 1936 so could be outdated
https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/direktlink/f0f89857-61e4-4238-9d1f-bb5cc10d4718/
While everyone just talks about Bismarck. Is there anything know what happens to the German WW1 Battlecruisers? One BB class from WW1 is also completly absent. Will they be completly bypassed? I’d find these very interesting…
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I love how 1 nation that gets WW2 stuff is annoyed that the WW1 stuff was skipped. Meanwhile another nation is annoyed that they only seem to be getting WW1 stuff and want some of it to be skipped so they can get at least some WW2 stuff.
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I would like if Scharnhorst was removed for the time being and replaced with the German Ersatz-Yorck and Ersatz-Mackensen classes as they would not be so bullshit and blatantly overpowered as Scharnhorst and more like HMS Hood with faster reload but slightly worse armour (on the belt).
Yeah, it’s outdated. They changed those details in the second half of the year:
Damn, why couldnt 1930s Nazi Naval designers think of us poor WT players and amend their plans