so i was playing this mig19, the one at 9.3 in the german tech tree, and i noticed a thing: this thing is a very good plane, but war thunder mad it so that it’s pure shit. A legit engine, fast and good for 9.3, 3 30mm guns that hit hard as fuck, quite maneuverable overall but in the end is bullshit for it’s br: you end up at 10.3 and suddenly you are slow, have not enough guns and if someone gets a lock on you you are done. i feel the plane is heavily compressed in it’s br, it would perform better at 9.0-8.7… i get it, i still have to get confortable with guns, but it’s fate is quite sealed. i do good in 9.3 br battles, it’s almost fun, but at 10.3 it’s almost useless. i feel like gaijin knows this very well and they can totally fix all of this, making the game actually fun, but i think they won’t do that because frustration sells the premium and vehicles, but who knows… it’s just the rant of someone with skill issue that doesen’t know anything, right?
its still one of the strongest 9.3s in game
air could easily go to 20.0, not looking forward to the compression hell once IIR and 5th gen comes either. i bet we are only getting 15.7 from that
still strong, but still unexplained at 9.3 imo
its there because theres a mirage with magic 1 at 10.0 that hammers the hell out of everyone in a downtier.
and the 9.7 sufferers get touched even worse by the 10.7 F-5 spam. its a vicious compression push from the top being too low, forcing others lower.
no jets are playable in uptiers bar a few lucky ones. real shame as i like a fair amount of earlier jets. Things like the vampire, venom and soon to be the Hawk T1A are going to be pretty damn useless at their respective BRs outside of special cases
i love those and the ww2 era jets, only way i can actually enjoy them is via sim battle with vr and cloche, no way i can deal with su11 in a me262… if only gaijin decided to put top tier to 18.0 instead 14.3… they just want us to be frustrated, don’t they?
Idk why it’s at 9.3 when the USSR one is 9.3 and has missiles.
Nah, all aspects and high-G IR missiles will screw any 9.3 that gets uptiered to 10.3. Don’t worry too much about it.
They are sidegrades. The German one is lighter and has more guns, in exchange for having no missiles. Besides, it’s not the only pure gun fighter (look at ariete and sagit 2)
one of my favourite planes is the DH100 Vampire. but for some reason this 1943 plane is 8.0 when even the 7.0 supermarine attacker sees it as free food. The ME-262 players are just so damn stupid that a load of turnfighter jets ended up around the first sidewinder equipped planes. Drives me nuts.
there is not all aspect below 10.7 after a “decompression” BR change when the phantoms were still top tier.
Honestly weird for a turnfighter to be undertiered. most of them get spitfire/zero syndrome and end up too high for their own good
su25k has got 20g all aspect missles, r60, at 10.3
ah. obligatory russian plane to ruin the matchmaker
russian bias doesen’t exist, it’s in your head. now take the pills and buy the premium… XD
i think my dosage was off. I bought the “this is gonna blow for ARB” premium
Oh I didn’t know that. Thanks for saying something
But it is true right now that a-10as and su-25ks are 10.3.
Not really. Since it is vulnerable to a-10/su-25 suicide headons and I assume that’s what keeps it low. This is also a br where many jets transition to missiles, which are a lot easier to use than guns.
I had forced myself to forget about the A10. infuriates me that its only 10.3 yet vastly inferior aircraft like hawk 200 are higher in BR
I think i summed this issue up earlier.
X is too low forcing Y to be too low as it cant do anything vs X, therefore it ruins the game for Z
replace “German Mig-19” with “game”
thinking that gaijin could solve this whenever they want, but they just won’t do it…
A-10A even has a cabal of horrific dirt pounders to keep it that low
yeah, they want the high BR stuff in the matches to push people to grind higher and higher BR vehicles and buy premium to speed up the process.
You try to play 9.3 but 10.3s make your life miserable, so you grind 10.3 because then you can fight the 9.3s… but no it’s all 11.3s… so if you just grind 11.3s and it will be better, right?.. RIGHT?
Does the Hawk Tuahundred have double the 9Ls and a higher top speed?