German Helicopter Tech Tree - Current and Future Discussion Thread

I’ll probably at some point create a Google drive with all the documents I’ve collected relating to Tiger program (there is a lot)

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So apparently Bell Flights is in the talks now with germany to move the production of the AH-1Z to germany. If i did read it right in the talks are up to 60 machines. Goal of it is that germany will continue to get production knowledge in the helicopter fields, additionaly international ordered vipers will be produced and shipped from germany as well.

What would your prefered alternatives to the Tiger be? The Apache, the Viper or maybe that coming italien helicopter?

LFK NG, was tested @WTD61. Was tested, so it could be in WT.
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H145M with Eurospike ER2 … dunno I guess it could work @WT. Especially if this would have a lower BR than Attack Helis. There are also H145M with more launch tubes. Would be similar to Bo-105, just probably +0.7 higher Br’ed.

Spike ER 2 got a 16km range, that alone propably will increase the br quite a bit, so that there are spaas that can even reach it

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It has no AA capability, so even a biplane could go for it. It would be counterbalanced.

Also it would be probably similar to the Bo-105 helis. They somhow work exceptionally well in Ground Forces up to 10.0 BR. Small, nimble, small heat sig, powerful HOT ATGMs. I’ve got a better ground vehicle K/D than in Mi-24P and Tiger UHT.

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I’m pretty sure the image of the Tiger with LFK-NG is photoshopped, this is the actual image:
uht

And while the LFK-NG was tested, the only thing tested about it was its engines. The guidance and warhead were not complete before the project was canned, so I doubt it’s enough for Gaijin to add it.

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Eh depends the H145M does get door mounted miniguns, it is not much but sth, but dont know if they csn be used together with spikes

Well if you say it like this, It somehow looks like it…or not? Im not sure. Forget about this project.

But this H145M looks really interesting. Nice skin, Gajin should be introducing this to WT. What ATMG is it using here?

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Also spike

My guess is that the Bundeswehr is waiting to see if the Invictus wins the heli competition, and if the US is open for exports on it

I have no doubt the army probably wanted the AH-64, considering it’s good track record and the fact it’s operated by the Netherlands would present an opportunity for further cooperation. Though I have to imagine that a new anti-tank helicopter is fairly low on the priority list hence the decision to go for the budget option of the H145M. Add to this the uncertain future of the attack helicopter in general, this decision did not surprise me.

@Abaddon75 As promised here is a google drive link with all the info on the Tiger I have: Eurocopter Tiger - Google Drive

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btw one of you guys watched the german military docu on helis?, i dont know what they smoked , but so many old or wrong information, they even said germany joined france and spain on the development of the next tiger https://youtu.be/uh8UROzy9GM?t=3291

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I must say, there is some nice footage even if some of the info is wrong.

That is certainly true as well, seeing the immer workings how they get constructed, is fascinating

From the color seems like for training purpose. But this heli can carry up to 8 Spike missile.

there were already life fire tests

btw @Godvana could you rename the UHT to the KHT:

  1. it sounds way cooler
  2. it is the official designation since the end of 2013

I know it’s generally called the “Kampfhubschrauber Tiger” which in theory could be shortened to KHT, but do you have any primary source (from Bundeswehr, Airbus, Bundesministerium der Verteidigung, etc.) that refers to it as the KHT? If so, I can make a report for it. It would need to be proved to Gaijin that KHT is the actual name of the helicopter rather than just a description.

yes actually:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/A5sGxG19dOvr