German F-4F Phantom II needs AIM-9Ls

is this in terms of R-60M’s at 11.0 if so, this is because R-60M’s are significantly worse then AIM-9L’s

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It is not 0.3 worse than the Mig-23MLD, but it’s basically a BR compression issue ike 90% of BR issues at high tier.

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yes they are, but in practice, they are just as potent in the hands of an equally skilled player

that goes for almost everything in the game, but 9L’s are objectively better in everyway

all aspect capability does a helluva lot for a fighter at 11.0

yes, but it takes half a flare to defeat it. also i dont think it can pull all 30g’s iirc

I think it deserves a .3 lower BR than the K2K because of its worse armament and avionics. Atm that would mean 12.0 because the K2K is laughably overtiered at 12.3, the same BR as the EJ Kai, only .3 lower than the F-16 ADF, and higher BR than aircraft such as the JA-37D and Tornado ADV. So 11.3-11.7 would be best for the F-4F.
And I’d much rather have a poor aircraft with accurate armament than a decent one with armament used only for training- I dislike incorrect/ahistorical loadouts, despise when those loadouts are meta- the best a vehicle gets- and I especially hate when that meta inaccurate armament is because Gaijin just doesn’t give the aircraft its main weapon despite that being on several other comparable vehicles.

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Fair, though I would hope the FGR2/FG1/F4JUK can all join it at 11.7 though. :D

Well those have radar missiles, though I’d still be in favor of at least the J and FGR2 getting 9Ls as well, though for the FGR that’d almost certainly mean 12.3. Wish we had some more decompression but with 9Ls it’d be a significant step up from a normal J but also a step down from the Kai, and neither of those can just move a BR without displacing other aircraft

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i just want muh F-4E-2000

i mean a missile pulls as much as it needs to below its limit…
unless its a magic 2 which has a 35G limit but has been seen pulling 50Gs lmao

its turning isnt really based on its max g’s, what matters is how many degree’s a second it can pull

max G and Deg/s are more or less directly proportional

For what tree?

no? for the max g’s to even matter it needs to be able to pull enough degree’s a second to reach those g’s

Israel, F-4 with PW 1120’s, like a 1.4 TWR. its super cool

Ah I thought you meant the Greek F-4E 2000

in WT the max Gs are what the missile can acheive with maximum speed and maximum deg/s

yes, and if you cant pull that deg/s it wont matter. the Magic II for a while wasnt able to pull 35g’s and more like 20 because it couldnt pull enough deg/s.

your point?
regardless of whether 9l or 60M can pull full 30G in game, they sure as hell arent slackers
9Js are. especially at 11.0