The both air planes I mentioned have CAS capabilities. I don’t think I was going off-topic.
I don’t really get this. Ger vehicles spread over half a dozen nations. But nothing in return… whats so hard to add the NL F-16 to Ger, one of our closest allies. Or just give it AGM-65 triple rails. Noo…nothing, non, njet, no, nein nein nein… Here you have your Tornado bus and some 1000lb bombs like 3.0 BR planes use…now go and play vs. Tunguska and stuff… Mwah.
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you seem to be talking about ARB not GRB
and you are talking about grinding italy being worthless. When its literaly shown italy has a great line up with a very promising future with the KF51. Its absolutly worth grinding with great vehicles with the Grippen and the 2a7hu
You are going off topic in the sense for your "hate " in the hungarian tree that yes overshadows the italian one currently. But that doesnt change its performs and still absolutly makes the italian tree worth grinding. And again the centauro line is great as well and there is still the centauro 2 to come a swell
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*Top tier I said it’s worthless, but I have to be honest, the LTs are good.
If you mean by the Lynx 120, yes it’s promising.
No hate but support for something good at top tier for Italy begin added.
lynxn 120 and kf51 are totaly different things, the lynx 120 is a light tank that was cancelled in favour for the KF 51 panther project.
The recent eurosatory showed off a kf41 with an italian hitfact mk II turret which looks intresting but they arent exactly the same
What i am talking about is the hungarian ordered KF51 panther evo and the newly contracted KF51 by italy. which is currently known as IMBT (when i got the name right)
Honestly hungaria and italy is a great combination because they will become the main home of the KF51 series propably
And oh yeah italy ordered KF41 as well, so be ready to get a italian variant as well
you say that like italy has sth good left to be added outside of maybe the centauro 2. There is no italian mbt which would have helped the gap
At least i can trust Leonardo to screw up and brutalize the guns
dont think the gun was ever the issue. rheinmetall gonna share technology and gonna let italy produce l55/a1 guns
remember kmw was the problem for the contract not rheinmetall
From what I remember, the reason negotiations with KMW fell through was due to the turret. Leonardo wanted to creat a custom turret for the existing leopards instead of using the L55/A1
You may know about the issues, but you’re unlikely to know to what extent that issue affects them. I have played most nations til top tier, including nations such as:
- Germany
- US
- France
- Russia
- Sweden
- Japan
Since the topic at hand is about top tier, and more specifically, about CAS, bringing up the issues of other nations is nothing more than attempting to change the goalpost. I for one know that the issues talked about by US mains are way too overblown. Abrams has been very forgiving for me, my K/D and K/B are quite frankly great for what’s supposed to be “a bottom tier MBT”. SEPv1 is quickly overtaking the 2A7V in my rankings of “most enjoyable tank to play” for example, the biggest issue US players are dealing with is that they’re, to put it bluntly, bad. Abrams has pretty good armour all things considered, sure it’s not Leopard 2 tier - but at that point you’re not looking at things objectively i.e how good the armour is overall, but subjectively where unless your armour is as good as, arguably speaking, the best MBTs in the game, you classify it as “terrible”, despite the fact it isn’t.
I think this also applies to any other nation/vehicle, doesn’t matter which vehicle is, if there’s a horde of CAS you said, it’ll be mostly a defeat. So it’s not a exclusivity.*
You’ve misunderstood what I meant there. Most nations have answers/CAS of their own, see: Italy despite how atrocious the Arietes are, has the Gripen C that by itself can change the outcome of the match thanks to an outstanding Maverick load-out & a great thermal pod to aid in long-range attacks. By comparison, despite how good Germany’s ground is, their CAS can not influence how the match will end, it just can’t.
I no moment I said Germany is undeserving of a good CAS, just don’t need much of them
At no point did anyone argue they should receive a lot of extremely potent CAS aircraft, what has been argued however is that they need a better CAS aircraft that’s on par with what most other nations have. Currently the best Germany has to offer is the F-4F ICE with its 2xMav Gs - yes, they’re good, the platform however, and the amount of ground ordinance however are atrocious by comparison. It doesn’t even get a TPOD, so it’s limited to an internally installed camera with terrible zoom & equally bad quality.
Yes, it is a shame you’re unwilling to learn.
Lol all your American stats are trash. You’re just the typical “waaaah waaaah Germany suffers need CAS waaah waaah!”
Tornado is a very good ground pounder at 10.3
The phantom and su22 are superior in the tree, but only because they have slightly more options and better at CAP.
Not exactly sure what you are looking for OP. You mean actual 11.7 top tier? What nation has event/premium strike planes above 11br?
The only thing germany lacks in terms of GRB for jets is a subsonic attacker like the a10/su25, and AGM carrier for top tier. Guided bombs are absolutely useless. Meta is missles, climbing to space is an absolute meme.
PS: buy the ju288 and just afk grind the entire air tree and make millions of SL at the same time.
You really are not in a position to talk about stats when, for every vehicle you both play, your stats are worse.
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He was tryna call everyone else bad despite having 0 experience outside of Germany toptier.
Also his stats are insanely bad in most tanks I main.
You do realise this is punishable behavior right?
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???
He has as many games in rank 7 and 8 outside of Germany as you have in total. I wouldn’t call that “0 experience outside of Germany’s top tier.” After all, he has approximately 5,900 more matches outside of Germany in ranks 7 and 8 than you do.
Let’s not forget that his stats are better than yours on average. Your average KD is ~1.1, while Furina’s is ~1.9 on the vehicles with which you have the most kills.
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Shit, need more Popcorn this is funny xD
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lol he only had a couple hundred games in Abrams and was tryna argue with som1 else who actually knew what they were talking about. Either way, all the points he made were pretty bad.
Who? Out of all the people who contributed to the argument, he has played America the most. Having a couple of hundred games is more than enough to get a grasp on the vehicles, which is, again, still more than you have.
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No you dont, you can spend a few hundred on GE and just buy your way through the tech tree. But i would ate least grind through the first three levels as they can be done fairly quickly, then you can just use your GE to buy up to the BR you want.