You literally said it buddy, looks like someone have memory issues and is desperate to leave on top of an internet discussion after they got corrected…
No. Just no. Anyone with a shred of common sense would entirely disagree with you. “PGZ09 is equal to M247” is a terrible ragebait.
Are you seriously saying Russia has an spaa between 8.3 and 10.0 on the same plane of existence as the gepard?
The Shilka works just fine, and the higher RoF ensures planes don’t just fly between your shells.
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It has significantly worse mobility, radar, and ability to fight ground vics with like 20% less pen on the base rounds, and doesn’t carry a small belt of sabot. Gepard plays like a dream compared to this shitbox.
largely irrelevant
Gepard radar is wildly inaccurate as well
we’re talking about anti-air
With a Shilka you won’t have planes flying perfectly fine between your shells because each gun only fires at 550rpm. The extra range is worthless since anyone with eyes can see your giant white tracers coming towards them.
Mobility is not irrelevant, were are talking it takes literally seconds to get behind cover in the zsu with how slow it is, gepard is almost instant.
Have you ever played a zsu? The radar is one of the worst in the game and takes about 10 seconds to do a 360 rotation, and can barely keep track on targets 4km away. And you dont get to play anti air, you sit in your spawn and you have to defend against spawn campers, you go off to a corner of the map and you get hunted as well, being able to defend yourself matters alot. Playing something like the roland slinger or OSA is pure misery because you just die all the time to ground units no matter where you position.
It has more rounds going out, but they are not even close to the velocity the gepards which means your effective range for gun kills is much shorter.
I would rather be in the 8.3 gepard than the 9.3 zsu any day of the week. I can’t shoot at helis nearly as far, the missiles are useless against anyone that has a brain and doesn’t get low energy at altitude or has flares and uses them, the radar is basically just a tracking radar and not a good one.
Context seems to be a bit difficult for you. are you going to try and argue that what i was saying is that the aircraft had to literally be stationary? “looks like someone have [sic]” learning difficulties.
Go on, use your words. explain why you think that the M247 is at least one BR deviation better than the PGZ09.
Really, the PGZ09 is better or equal to the M247 in almost every way.
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Theyre equal vehicles imo, m247 is better for a2a but its on a shit chassis and is inconsistent st best against armored targets.
You mean you think the m247 is better against air? i think they’re equal, the AHEAD round probably has a smaller damage cone, but it has a higher MV and much higher fire rate. Against ground it’s not even close, the PGZ09 shits on the 247. the PGZ09 is faster, more mobile, has APDS and better APHE rounds.
It should be at least 9.0.
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Yeah…No, moving the PGZ09 to 9.0 literally breaks the CN lineups completely. Gaijin did it twice, third shouldn’t happen
AHAED Not as powerful as HEVT, you only need to move a little to avoid damage, which is fundamentally different from HEVT’s extensive AOE damage
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Better APHE? This makes no sense. If I remember well, you can’t have both AHEAD and APHE. 40 APHE instead of 40 APDS at most.
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40 APDS at most for AT rounds. About APHE, usually SPAAs don’t have APHE shells, mainly they use API-T and HEI-T rounds
Yeah you can only take two types of ammo. If you have AHEAD and APDS it means no APHE, and vice versa etc.
API-T are APHE rounds. That’s why the 35mm Oerlikon’s are so deadly vs tanks. Pen the cupola with API-T and boom, crew gone.
I’m a China defender but that thing is insane, I have 5 nukes with it.
And you’re basing this on what, vibes or just some bullshit you made up? Really, AHEAD would be far more effective that an M822.
It makes not sense how? you can take two types of belt. The PGZ09 APHE shits on all other 35mm APHE, and the AHEAD rounds are almost as good as other 35mm APHE against ground as well. It’s the APHE that kills ground targets anyway.