Gepard and PGZ09 at 8.3?

i thought it was volocity x mass thats what someone was explaining too me i have been spreading ms information how do i almost have a masters

sure u can make that comparison, but the R-530 is 15G. mostly the only thing stinger has going for it is the IRCCM and the burn time on the motor.

fact is if u are outside of a 6km bubble youre safe.
in my experience the igla has been just as dangerous but only if i dont spot it of my plane is a brick.

thats 10.3
osa should be 10.7
gepard with stinger is 9.7
gepard itself is 8.3 which is completely balanced. if youre literally outside of 2km youre safe. just keep an eye on the spawn and check ur RWR. theres no way u die to a normal gepard unless its your own mistake of having a false sense of security

1 Like

Meanwhile if I’m doing anything instead of doing nothing with a 8.3-9.3 craft I would be 100% in ~3km range, if not <2km for more accurate dumb bomb drops; or straight flight for bullpup guidance.
Same thing for CAP, which makes ppl even more distracted from the ground. These fighters won’t do anything out of 1km from the enemy aircraft

This is probably why no one’s spawning planes around 8.0-11.0 xD ez turkey shoot

For su22m3, if it finishes the attack at his most manuverable speed for pulling up and leave in a straight line for best speed, it can barely reach 4km when it’s caught up by a stinger launched from behind.

You Can Not Be Serious GIFs | Tenor

1 Like

People does spawn with planes at that br

1 Like

Averaging less than 2 aircraft a game.

1 Like

Those are the ones that i killed, they obviously spawn more than 2 per game as i dont kill everysingle aircraft that spawns…

1 Like

Mw I’m having games where I sit in my zsu having 0 contact for 20min, or 5min till I got tanks in spawn. How?

1 Like

slightly annoyed its at 8.7 where theres no lineup for it but im not playing my 8.3 that often anymore sooo

Better it have no lineup than be at 8.3.

7mms penning me from the side 20mm ap penning from the front having little ammo no reverse gear having -2 gun depression the za35 is 8.3 so is the chieftain marksman the tradeoff for the za35 having no armour is speed and good gd while the trade for having no armour is having good fcs and a traceless ammo

wait when did they add CONTROLLED SUSPENSION???

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

pgz09 has about same capabilities as amx 30 dca. You only have 40 rounds of aphe/apds (if you take ahead as primary) and then you have 440 rounds of ahead rounds which is nowhere near capable of killing mbts, but it can kill light tanks and such, atleast thats my experience.
As i have both amx 30 dca, and pgz09 (with having less games on pgz09), i would deem both 8.7 worthy, one doesnt have an easy time shooting planes, but kills tanks really well, and other one cant kill tanks as easy, but kills planes really well, just a trade off.

If PGZ09 would be 9.3 i have no clue who would take it over PGZ04A which is IMO better

1 Like

Yeah buddy keep making bs excuses, i literally show you prove of the fact that you can guide them while you move, you were the one claiming otherwise not me, if you lack the ability to use MCLOS missiles, just say so, the fact is that you can kill those spaag well beyond their effective range if you cant use that, this is a you issue…
I will stop replying as any more interaction with with you as it is pretty much meaningless, since you resort to personal attacks when you ran out of arguments.n

I’m kind of astounded that anyone could say something so stupid. the AMX-3 DCA is worse than the PGZ09 is essentially every way.

-Apart from the guns being better, the ammo gaijin gave the PGZ09 make the DCA ammo look like a pile of dogshit. the APHE, the round that will get you almost all of your ground kills has like 50% higher pen and a bigger charge. It also has it’s broken AHEAD round, which is the main reason it should be 9.3. Not only does it’s AHEAD round by itself have better pen than the APHE of the DCA, it has no tracer so you can knock out planes from ridiculous ranges because that don’t even know you’re firing, and i’m not even sure if there are any RWR aircraft at 8.7, if you’re using RADAR and not IRST.

-It’s faster with a much better power to weight ratio.

-Not only is it’s RADAR absolutely shit on the DCA’s but it get seperate search and tracking radars, which the DCA noticably doesn’t get.

-It’s better protected than the DCA, which is really shouldn’t be. either due to gaijin being inept or stupid the multiple layers of very thin steel either stop rounds, have low calibre rounds detonate between armour, allow rounds to pass through without spalling, or have parts block shots and/or spalling.

-It get’s adjustable suspension, which is really good if you’re the camping type.

-It might get the lowest BR second generation thermals in the game

-It also gets IRST search and tracking.

It is better than the PGZ04A, It’s better against ground and the AHEAD makes it better against air too, mainly because the HN-6 suck.

1 Like

I never said they couldn’t move, they can obviously move, they’re literally flying. But you altering course by 2 degrees while firing at a stationary target that isn’t firing and that you know exactly where it is isn’t manouevering or a realistic scenario is it?

Looks like you’re running, cope more.

1 Like

You literally said it buddy, looks like someone have memory issues and is desperate to leave on top of an internet discussion after they got corrected…

No. Just no. Anyone with a shred of common sense would entirely disagree with you. “PGZ09 is equal to M247” is a terrible ragebait.

Are you seriously saying Russia has an spaa between 8.3 and 10.0 on the same plane of existence as the gepard?